Massively disappointed. Really fancied us to put in a performance and win today but couldn't have been more wrong.

As others have said, Swift and Jack Brown very good and oh what it would have been like to see Clifford play behind a big pack..

Death, taxes and Hull FC crap in September.

Ignoring the random 2020 season which went on until November and we got to the play off semi our September record is hideous

2015 W0 L4
2016 W1 L4
2017 W2 L2
2018 W0 L4
2019 W0 L2
2021 W0 L3
2022 W0 L1
2023 W0 L1

They’ll be a season that doesn’t end it complete disappointment eventually

felt like we had gone back to the start of the season at some points today, awful defence and lazy. looked better with Hoy in halves.

The most impressive bit of skill this afternoon was the young kid kicking the ball in the car boot 3 times

And even those 2016 and 2017 wins were only against Cas and Wakefield! Absolute discrace.

Good stuff and very enlightening we aint that good at doing Septembers are we?

If you do what I did this week (saddo that I am) and compare the point we dropped off and went backwards and the league position we were in at that point and the points we had in the bag, its always there or there about on when we were safe from going down. Since the Radford buddy buddy days when many were guaranteed a contract for the next season well before the end of the current one, (with relegated teams contracts null and void) that ensure it guaranteed players another years contract. I know that's not the case these days but it seems strange that the same trait is there now. Its almost in the players DNA The players that we know were leaving played fine until the Wigan game (the week one of the bottom two couldn't catch us) now with the exception of Swift they are not, makes you think really!!!

But we came close in those two semi finals to get to Old Trafford. In 2016 we came from behind at the JJB even with a key cog of that team, Sika Manu missing. Only to narrowly lose out in the finalminutes. And in 2017. We came from behind to take the lead at Headingly only to lose out to a late Sutcliffe try. We'd have done Castleford in that final no problem, as Leeds did.

The point is, we we're competitive and in the mix when the silverware was decided. We could only dream of that right now because we're miles away.

But we came close in those two semi finals to get to Old Trafford. In 2016 we came from behind at the JJB even with a key cog of that team, Sika Manu missing. Only to narrowly lose out in the final minutes. And in 2017. We came from behind to take the lead at Headingly only to lose out to a late Sutcliffe try. We'd have done Castleford in that final no problem, as Leeds did.

The point is, we were competitive and in the mix when the silverware was decided. We could only dream of that right now because we're miles away.

Such a good post it posted twice.

injured?
we dont sign injury prone players

All ifs buts and maybes, we didnt make the Grand Finals and then threw all the good progress in the bin with repeated bad signings.

Also not sure it is down to training too hard early in the season and burning out this time, Smith indicated we started the season a bit undercooked. I agree with Wilf that theres a trend for us to drop off when we are safe from the drop and players know theyve got another seasons money coming their way. Worryingly with no relegation in the future the players may be even more relaxed

think its the latter
Perfect game to play him today off the bench with Houghton
Top six was well gone

Notice that Keith has been online for hours.

Poor sod. He must be frustrated beyond belief that he's not allowed to play with the grown ups.

But that's what you get for being a naughty boy.

At the moment we are playing with no forwards which the club have identified to a certain extent but for next season our backs are looking so weak its embarrassing.
We dont know yet where Hoy will play but if he does move into the halves then we are weak at full back.
Our two centres are average at best and if we run with the wings we have plus Tindall they must be the most inexperienced and weakest in S/L
Never would we have expected Cam Scott to be a starting centre.
We now need two halfbacks and the problem at nine is still to be resolved because an overseas nine seems to have been ruled out.
Maybe explains why Pearson has gone off the radar as reality has kicked in

Nah, It's about having a group of players that are winners and born to play in the big games against having a bunch of average players who are happy to just take home a living. The likes of Wigan and St Helens usually go for the former. That's why they're always successful and have bulging trophy cabinets.

Nah, It's about having a group of players that are winners and born to play in the big games against having a bunch of average players who are happy to just take home a living. The likes of Wigan and St Helens usually go for the former. That's why they're always successful and have bulging trophy cabinets.

youre on a roll with these double posts

It's the forum. It's loving my posts so much it's posting them twice.

Well, that was a fun afternoon, was it not! as another year of what might have been drifts off into the autumn sunset!! never to be seen or spoken of ever again!!

Move along everybody, there's nothing left for any of you to see here, it's time for you all to head off home!!!

Bloody hell…there are some right whinging sods on here.They wanted a clear out and a proven head coach…we got that and yet still getting hysterical about a season that was never going anywhere.People saying about Pearson not saying anything…err Smith has full control of the playing side so he doesn’t have to say anything.Yet again he is finding money again to make signings as well as paying off the Covid load.He has to take some of the blame for the last 4/5 seasons but has now appointed the right coach and maybe some of the money is being spent on the youth and academy set up which will bear fruit in future seasons…look at Wiagan,they have signed how many players but not bringing any through the academy and those that have are forwards.we can’t all have big money backers and tbh it doesn’t guarantee success,our friends across the river will be like Salford in a few years

I didnt expect to make the playoffs this year but I did expect to be seeing signs we are getting better, and a few weeks back we were such as beating Saints at home and running Wigan very close away a couple of weeks ago.

But losing to weak Wire and Leeds teams at home while looking devoid of ideas is concerning. The club just cant seem to lift its end of season malase.

Smith still has my full backing but we need to be starting 2024 with a bang, we cant keep saying 'its a rebuild year, wait til next year' its got old

Feels like we've been rebuilding since Watts left mid season back in 2018, as you say, needs to stop at some point, can't just keep saying its a new coach he needs year 1 to steady the ship, year 2 to make it his team, year 3 to win something

Oh I agree….the last 2 matches have been wretched and tbh I think Clifford’s not been ripping up trees since he announced he is buggering off to be a back up half for a year???,saying that,take Trueman out and we devoid of ideas and that has been proven over the last 2 games.it’s amazing that our end of seasons slump has happened with the players Smith is shipping out