Why do we always cock up the first play of a repeat set?

i dont know about that but its the same players week after week giving away penalties and dropping the ball.
The coach has to address that.
What is clear is that we have lost all forward dominance this season.

Are the players fit enough?

we haven't put in one decent 80 minute performance this season. at best we've gone well for 40 - 50 mins

Hardly. It should be doing a lot better than it is though.

Still - looks like those that miss the Derbies might be getting one sooner than they thought.

Another good sized crowd let down by the players.
Schofield will have a field day today with Sneyd
Radford needs to make some decisions regarding the discipline of certain players.They are putting too much pressure on the defence of the team giving away needless penalties.

Are the players fit enough?

So far this season we've for the most part being a 40 minute team, that's a problem mind set/coaching strategy wise and/or fatigue.

A few injuries has an affect obviously but it's not like we are playing a man down (unless a sinbin/red) so the Houghton makes 50/60 tackles comment whilst relevant in the sense of one of best players is missing it's not like that's 50/60 tackles not being made by the replacemet/s. it might not be as many, it might not be as effective but we are not missing 50/60 extra tackles because there's a replacement player on the pitch.
In this case it happens to be Washbrook who isn't a DH/Hooker but can tackle and pass a bit but this all stems back to the going with one hooker system (& losing Cunningham) which works if your hooker can do a full 80mins and/or isn't injured as you can then have 4 forwards on the bench with one like Hadley or Washbrook just in case. When we already have an 80 minute player in Mini we should be able to cover the loss of an 80 minute DH no problems.

Coach needs to get a hold of the discipline problem and fast because it looks like his charges are losing their heads when the pressure is on and can't deal with a few injuries and the players are gassed at times shipping loads of points.
Defence sounded lacklustre at best.
Still, no need to panic just yet.

Deja vu.
Defence absolute garbage again.
Hammered on the penalty count again (or at least felt like it).
2 players sin binned again.
Not quite a crisis yet but something needs to change quick, shipping in 104 points in 2 games is shocking.

Also Child is absolute rubbish.

Washbrook looks knackered for one, unsurprisingly.

An awful display from a discipline/error perspective again, just not putting ourselves in a position to compete. 4 players in the bin in 2 games is dire. A loss on Monday (looks like Bowden will be out) and we'll struggle to get in the 8 IMO. Still trips to Toulouse and London maybe.



Well done to Brad Fash by the way, stood up well. Leeds no mugs either of course, recovering from Sinfield's loss now and looking cohesive.

Six sin binnings in nine games. That's more than the last two seasons combined.

Well that was absolute dog54it!

Wtf is wrong with the forwards? Forwards where atrocious. Taylor Watts Bowden invisible. Back row a bit better and Washbrook terrible. Play Houghton against Leigh or lose again

On the plus side, Danny Houghton will come back.

Without him, we're not capable of winning anything. One man does make a team in our case.

trouble is we arnt doing the basics right,

Abysmal.

Our defence and ball control is embarrassing atm. Fans can blame childs' all they want but when your spilling the ball on your second set/first tackle then tackle like it's tag rugby you can't do anything. Frustration from the players yes but too many poor attempts to tackle from minute 1. Think teams have found us out, keep the ball alive throw it around and we can't cope

Not surprised in Bowdens case as he went down early and struggled before going off very early and not coming back. Thought it was a strange move by Radford to start with all 3 to be honest.

Just think Radford should have changed things as for 4 games running we have been poor and nothing has changed at all.

We lack desire and looked like 13 individuals instead of a team. Has Agar returned in secret?

Child is a poor referee but you cant blame him for us dropping the ball,conceding needless penalties.Sneyd kicking the ball out twice giving them 7 tackles,one which they scored from.
We would have still lost today even with a perfect referee.
It will be good to get Tuimavave back on Monday.I would drop Griffin he is hopeless in defence given his size.
Need to get some speed at the play the ball but Litten is just too lightweight at the moment and our pack is not dominant so until Danny Houghton is back its Washbrook.He trys but is way too slow at dummy half .
Questions should be asked why Hadley is not recalled.Not possible today because of injuries but Radford is running Mini and Manu into the ground once again.

Bowden? Got injured, played on and went off early

Absolute shambles. houghton is a big miss but the last 2 performances are inexcusable. At least we're promised we'll finish the season well so should steer clear of the £1 million game

Teams with pace that Keep the ball alive,fast hands along the line and forwards that offload at every opportunity thats the name of the game this year.
Its why i said both Salford and Leeds would turn us over.
Castleford are the masters of this and will tear us apart.

hopefully

It's your fault we're in this mess. We miss the easy 6 points

Did I blame Child for those things?

I simply said he was rubbish which I think even Leeds fans would agree with.

Our discipline has been terrible lately and that can't soley be down to bad refereeing I agree.

Ultimately what lost us the game was terrible goal line defence. Once again the game was largely over as a contest by half time.

Our lack of a second hooker is hurting atm. I reckon Connor would have done a spell off the bench today if Talanoa hadn't gone off early.