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| Quote ="jools"It's simple- Money talks - we have offered him more than the club has ever offered any other kid his age - you have offered him more.'"
Not really. Your offer has presumably been on the table for some time but he didn;t want to sign. Hull only became aware of his availability recently when, presumably, his agent started hawking him around.
I doubt we've offered him the reported £50k as we've just let one of our own young halves walk away when he wanted £14k but we only valued him at £12k
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| Quote ="bonaire"Not seen anything of the lad and certainly never stood out when we have played Huddersfield.
The concern for me is when you read the Huddersfield forum comments on him whether they are positive or negative what does come to light is his lack of pace.'"
Radders say he likes him with ball in hand, and he hits big in defence. Hrs done well against us and when he's been watched. So I'd say the home work has been done.
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If a player says he wants to come to us and we want him its a no brainer he'll wait if he has to, but as a club you then have to make sure you do it by the rules and if you officially announce it the player is committed to the move whatever. The last paragraph says it all for me!
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If a player says he wants to come to us and we want him its a no brainer he'll wait if he has to, but as a club you then have to make sure you do it by the rules and if you officially announce it the player is committed to the move whatever. The last paragraph says it all for me!
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"icon_lol.gif Conspicuous by his absence is old Bumpy. He didn't respond to my post or to the quote from Thewlis (the Hudds MD) saying how they tried to keep Connor.
Typical of him unfortunately. Writes a load of negative nonsense; attracts the challenge his nonsense deserves; b!tches & moans about the replies he gets; gets put right by other posters; does a disappearing act. The sad thing is, I think he has a point worthy of discussion re our youth coming through. He just puts it across in a terribly negative way that people don't want to engage.'"
I have had far more important things than read this type of tripe, I said what wanted to, whatever your and others responses may be, my asking of a simple question/bringing up a valid point was met by ridiculous OTT bully posting typical of the usual idiots on this forum including yourself.
We already have an average defending/good attacking bulky type centre signed up in Griffin, it also stunts our youngsters coming through, signings like this I don't agree with, you have your opinion but choose to react like a child same as EastHullfc, you and your ilk can't help reacting like complete keyboard monkey's,
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have had far more important things than read this type of tripe, I said what wanted to, whatever your and others responses may be, my asking of a simple question/bringing up a valid point was met by ridiculous OTT bully posting typical of the usual idiots on this forum including yourself.
We already have an average defending/good attacking bulky type centre signed up in Griffin, it also stunts our youngsters coming through, signings like this I don't agree with, you have your opinion but choose to react like a child same as EastHullfc, you and your ilk can't help reacting like complete keyboard monkey's,
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You really don't get it, do you? Did you read my previous response to you?
People will engage with genuine debate, not questions/point loaded with negative bile. It's right that sort of thing is challenged.
Now you've presumably read Thewlis' comments on Connor, are you still of the opinion he's a 'castoff' with 'no pedigree'?
Also, calling someone a bully and then calling them names is slightly hypocritical don't you think.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have had far more important things than read this type of tripe, I said what wanted to, whatever your and others responses may be, my asking of a simple question/bringing up a valid point was met by ridiculous OTT bully posting typical of the usual idiots on this forum including yourself.
We already have an average defending/good attacking bulky type centre signed up in Griffin, it also stunts our youngsters coming through, signings like this I don't agree with, you have your opinion but choose to react like a child same as EastHullfc, you and your ilk can't help reacting like complete keyboard monkey's,
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So Jake Connor, then. Sticking by your unwanted cast-off comment in the context of Thewlis' statement? Simple enough question. Note: no name-calling required, just a straightforward answer.
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| Quote ="jools"Hmm, this has certainly changed my mind about this situation. I was under the impression this was agreed by hudds but it's seems not. A nasty way to go about things by the hull board. You've either signed him without agreement with our club and so will have to pay a fee- or you haven't actually signed him in which case the timing of the announcement this week With the Huddersfield club in mourning following the death of a young player is a pretty low blow. If you haven't yet signed him then there was absolutely no need to announce it this weekend- the day funeral announcements were made. Seems almost calculated. Not least Connor agreeing to this announcement himself who at 21 will have played alongside many of the players who are completely devastated by the loss of a teammate. If that's the size of his ego then I've changed my mind and I'm glad he's going.'"
Surely the press ran the story; or are you claiming that Hull FC put the HDM up to it. If it's true that he will not sign until after the season then I would imagine FC would not have wished it to be published but it has & I see no wrong in it. As to doing the right & wrong thing in regard to the death of your young player why did Hudds get rid of Anderson at the same time.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The real issue here is why connor doesn't want to stay where he is. hudds and their fans need to take a look at themselves before criticising our club'"
Some of us do. Ignore jools she is the most blinkered poster on our board. She knows nothing about what he is on at hull.
As I posted on our board our poor manager tried to get him on the cheap. He called our bluff and we lost him.
Saying that I have posted on our board a number of times I don't see what is so great about him.
Hope with some better coaching / Support than he got from Anderson he might do well.
Time will tell
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Some of us do. Ignore jools she is the most blinkered poster on our board. She knows nothing about what he is on at hull.
As I posted on our board our poor manager tried to get him on the cheap. He called our bluff and we lost him.
Saying that I have posted on our board a number of times I don't see what is so great about him.
Hope with some better coaching / Support than he got from Anderson he might do well.
Time will tell'"
He will have to work hard to get his place as he will have some good competition next year for the position of centre.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have had far more important things than read this type of tripe, I said what wanted to, whatever your and others responses may be, my asking of a simple question/bringing up a valid point was met by ridiculous OTT bully posting typical of the usual idiots on this forum including yourself.
We already have an average defending/good attacking bulky type centre signed up in Griffin, it also stunts our youngsters coming through, signings like this I don't agree with, you have your opinion but choose to react like a child same as EastHullfc, you and your ilk can't help reacting like complete keyboard monkey's,
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Perhaps the current crop of youngsters are not progressing is line with what was first thought. Logan did well but in my opinion was no real different to the player who came on the scene at the end of 2014, he has yet to really kick on.
This is a subject you have often quoted in the past and spun it to criticise Radford. Not saying you are going down that line again BTW.
Not every one of the academy players will graduate to first team SL standard. Examples of this could be given going back years. Also, some signings don't quite cut it when it appeared there should be no reason for them not to.
One thing is for certain. from the squad which started this season we have released Whiting, Yeaman is OOC (he is playing very well this season, but is there scope to extend the contract of a 33 / 34 year old centre if the opportunity comes to sign a longer term player) and Michaels has a question mark against if he will have his contract extended (not because of performances I will add). Throw in that Pryce could be coming to the end his time (OOC) and that Carlos is likely to be our 6 next season, I see no reason why we would not want to put more numbers into the outside backs.
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That's the point IMO. There's no point knee-jerking after a signing, saying they're a 'cast off' or that he's not needed, when we don't know what our squad will look like in 2017 yet, there's still a few decisions yet to be made as you pointed out (publically anyway).
Let's see where we're at for 2017 once all business has been completed. As it stands we're losing Yeaman & Michaels, with Tuimavave perhaps moving to 6. They're being replaced by Griffin & Connor, to go with the current lot; Talanoa, Naughton, Fonua, Logan, Lancaster.
After the recent success stories our recruitment has given us, only a fool would write a signing off 7 months before they'll play a game.
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| His athleticism in this Huddersfield/Wakefield game looks awesome.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"His athleticism in this Huddersfield/Wakefield game looks awesome.'"
Likes a bit of niggle too, bit like Shayne McMenemy.
League Express editor Martyn Sadler just tweeted: Whatever @Giantsrl & @hullfcofficial have offered Jake Connor for next season, he is surely worth it.
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| Any Decent Hudds player with a bit of ambition should just look at Crabtree's wasted career, he could have signed for a bigger club and won a hatful of medals.
No wonder players like Brough, Wardle and Connor want out.
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| Not sure what his position is really but he doesn't have the pace for a winger. I can see him playing 2nd row in a few years time. Certainly doesn't take a backward step
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| I remember seeing him at Magic Weekend against Saints and he looked a very physical and intelligent player with ball in hand. I think he'll go well behind our pack and could be a gem of a signing. He and Josh Griffin are two very astute signings I think and will enhance our physical presence in the back line, as some have said, ala Bradford.
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| For anyone who was in doubt i think he showed what he's capable of last night. He had a cracking game.
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| not coming... staying at hudds according to Hull FC Rugby App on the Twitter
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| Quote ="mk_fc"not coming... staying at hudds according to hfc app'"
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| As I said, it was always a gamble by us, as if the contract isn't signed, he could change his mind.
I would guess he wants to play FB, but that won't happen at Hull with Shaul, plus I reckon Hudds offered more money.
I don't want anyone who isn't 100% at Hull so better now that later when we can't recruit.
I hope we now use the money to get a 6.
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| So far it's just a tweeted link to the YP article. I expect an official club announcement will follow.
He'd better stay away from his Twitter feed for a few days.
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| "Change of heart" more like a change of offer from Hudds - they did say they would try to keep him,
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