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| I'm afraid people need to get their B&W specs off for this one.
As Agar has said on the radio (and has also said in the past to the RFL), the spear tackle (or "dumping" as he calls it) is the piece of foul play that ABOVE ALL OTHERS needs ridding from the game. The reason being you can break a players neck.
Tansey may well have not intended to dump him on his head. However, in order to do so, he must have at some stage intentionally lifted the player's legs. Then at that point he may have lost control of the tackle resulting in him being tipped on his head.
When a player runs through and is stopped by the opposing full back head on there is no way that through simple "momentum" a player could end up being dumped to the ground like that head first. He must have lifted his legs and then at that point some kind of "momentum" might take (dangerously) over. Also don't forget there was no one else in the tackle to complicate things.
That Tansey lost control of the tackle doesn't absolve him of guilt. It has to be the tackler's responsibility to control the tackle, it really can't be the responsibility of anyone else!
Lastly he already has form for this, from last year. At that disciplinary hearing, the club, having decided it was bad, admitted the charge and were happy to accept a 2 match ban. Unfortunately he hasn't learnt his lesson...
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Quote ="smudgersmith"EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website [url=http://www.crusadersrfl.com/report.php?id=3217388sent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofske[/url'"
Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.
For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
For your further info here is the original article:
www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388
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Quote ="smudgersmith"EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website [url=http://www.crusadersrfl.com/report.php?id=3217388sent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofske[/url'"
Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.
For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
For your further info here is the original article:
www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes, i'd imagine picking someone up and dropping them on their head is an attempt to injure someone.'"
he didnt do it with the intention of injuring him FOOL, it was reckless and shouldnt have happened, a red card was correct IMO, but to say tansey "meant" to do it is just plain stupid and your anti hull thoughts are there to see.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Not at all, he's a good attacking player is Jordan. I just don't like to see people dumped on their heads in such a way. If it was accidental then so be it but I would argue it's difficult to accidently drop someone on their head and I hate to see any lifting tackles take place.
Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??'"
Tansey is a player that cannot tackle. it's why he is not a fullback, in my opinion. However, when a player isa running at 100% speed and gets tackled, then yeah, it can go wrong for the runner. happens all the time including to me. Tansey simply made a tackle with no malice or any intent to hurt whatsoever. Yeah he landed on his head, it's called Rugby League. No spear, no intent, pure speed and motion. You are just being an idiot. You know what happened so why not just try being objective. Not like he stamped on a prone innocents face is it.
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Quote ="Brasshat"Quote ="smudgersmith"EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website [url=http://www.crusadersrfl.com/report.php?id=3217388sent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofske[/url'"
Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.
For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
For your further info here is the original article:
www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388'"
So in summary your media guy couldn't be d to write a report or didn't bother attending the game?
I saw the same article on the super league website however, as the crusaders one should be a reflection of your opinions chose to comment on yours.
Not sure what you mean about my own back door however the comment about the world not being black and white, I agree however give us a few more years and we will be changing that, for rugby league at least.
has anyone found a link to a video of the tackle yet, heard it was on SSN?
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Quote ="Brasshat"Quote ="smudgersmith"EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website [url=http://www.crusadersrfl.com/report.php?id=3217388sent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofske[/url'"
Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.
For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
For your further info here is the original article:
www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388'"
So in summary your media guy couldn't be d to write a report or didn't bother attending the game?
I saw the same article on the super league website however, as the crusaders one should be a reflection of your opinions chose to comment on yours.
Not sure what you mean about my own back door however the comment about the world not being black and white, I agree however give us a few more years and we will be changing that, for rugby league at least.
has anyone found a link to a video of the tackle yet, heard it was on SSN?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Thats ok then, He won't get banned then much like you don't for an accidental high tackle.'"
Did I say he won`t get banned?,I am just pointing out I don`t think it was intentional,doesn`t make the tackle still not being illegal.Take that red and white shirt off for one minute and look at it logicaly.
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| Just watched it on SL show, be very shocked if he gets anything more than SOS
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| Just watched the sending off on sky and i'd say it was more radfords fault as 2nd man in rather than Tansey.
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| Quote ="Brasshat" Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
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Classic!
Justifiable sending off; can't believe the debate! Don't think he meant it; but he still did it.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Just watched the sending off on sky and i'd say it was more radfords fault as 2nd man in rather than Tansey.'"
Just watched it myself, Tansey will get the balme because he will lifted the man, I know he turned on his head because of the impact from Radders but if Tansey hadn't of lifted him in the first place, he wouldn't have turned upsidedown.
I can see him getting at least 1 match.
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| =#FF0000Be careful what you post about players please.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Theres no bias about it, it was a shocking tackle and he was rightly red carded. You can come up with however many excuses you want trying to justify his attempt to seriously injure someone, you are embarrasing yourself through your bias.
The Hull fans who actually understand the game are even admitting it was a sending off.'"
He did not try to injure him, which is why he let him go and did not drive him into the ground. A poor tackle yes but when has anyone ever been red carded for that type of tackle? The things happen a lot during a season and it is usually placed 'on report' at most.
Like I said a poor troll, yet you just can't stay away can you Phleb, embarrassing!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Just watched the sending off on sky and i'd say it was more radfords fault as 2nd man in rather than Tansey.'"
We said the same...
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| Poor technique rather than malicious intent. Taking into account a wire win in the next game will make the end of season more exciting I'd say it'll be a 1 match ban.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"We said the same...'"
But Radford did show concern for the player on the floor.
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| [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php[/url
No mention of Tansey on here, Tony Martin the only player mentioned from our game. Does this mean SOS?
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| Quote ="boost"But Radford did show concern for the player on the floor.'"
Never said either player was not concerned.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php[/url
No mention of Tansey on here, Tony Martin the only player mentioned from our game. Does this mean SOS?'"
Beat me to it!!!
Fingers crossed that's exactly what it means
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php[/url
No mention of Tansey on here, Tony Martin the only player mentioned from our game. Does this mean SOS?'"
Odd. Even if he was given SOS there should be a report on there, unless the video review panel decided not to refer it to the disciplinary committee for some reason. But I thought that every Red Card was automatically referred to the DC.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I presume it does....surprised not to see Mason from last night on though, but I am with you lets
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Takes a day or so for the reports to show up on there.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Odd. Even if he was given SOS there should be a report on there, unless the video review panel decided not to refer it to the disciplinary committee for some reason. But I thought that every Red Card was automatically referred to the DC.
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Every one on there from Friday night has been given no charge, maybe they're just sorting out the relevant charges before putting the other on.
I'll be refreshing the page with interest throughout today lol!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Takes a day or so for the reports to show up on there.'"
Right.....back to Tansey though, a Crusaders player has been named so you would have expected Tanseys to be there...
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I presume it does....surprised not to see Mason from last night on though, but I am with you lets
'" As Kosh has just said, it only covers the no charges from Friday night.
Not out of the woods yet I don't think.
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| He'll be charged.
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