Really?

They have meetings with the club occassionally but they do very little else. Look at the RSG and as I say WISCA. They are there to help the club and give the fans a sense of feeling. Both Huddersfield and Warrington have benefitted from squadbuilder funds and I know Batley, Leigh and Widnes all do a similar thing. What do FCVoices give the club?

Sounds very much like a party in the park

Yeah thats the type of thing im on about, am i right in thinking we only have one of them a season though.

I dont see any harm in having a extra one to launch the new group.

Not having one this year AFAIK

kinda tricky on a friday night, and take a lot of organisation.

Does it really have to be before a game?

Obviously it would help but if it was done on say CC semi weekend (I know thats not viable now) maybe more people would be able to afford raffle tickets and alike because they're not forking out money for their admission fee.

the idea was originally, to try and engage with the visting fans aswell. Suppose there is no reason it has to be on a game day, but you'd get a lot more people there I suspect if it was.

A clear agenda is needed .
What are the goals of this group ? What do they hope to acheive ?
Who will Chair the meeting on the 9th?

I doubt that very much. Your incessant p*ssing and moaning, coupled with your narcissistic tendancies would have everyone heading for the exits before it even got started.

I'm lead to believe that Michael Martin is at a loose end these days.

After posting this once, I'll do it again for you as you obviously haven't bothered to read through this thread.


I have made sure that this season, every single disabled person who needed a car parking space in and around the stadium has one, that includes James Rule and his staff giving up their spaces to accomodate more spaces for disabled, but you probably won't have heard about it because there is no hidden agenda behind my position in Voices. The Junior Airlie Birds is also a Voices project, we approached the club about them getting involved. Fans Forums, if it wasn't for Voices you wouldn't have had one at the begining of the year, the group have also got the trains on a match day/evening to stop at stops that it didn't used to as a direct result of the needs of fans, need I go on ..................................................?

Definitely in. There are a lot of things we could do (fundraising etc...). Would it be possible to get a player or 2 involved with fun days and such like, donating match shirts to auction for charity??? Or is that against anything in there contracts?

James Rule did answer a question about autographed shirts/balls for charity at our last disabled meeting and he said they don't do it anymore for the sole reason that they have loads of requests everyweek and the players would spend all their time autographing rather than training. They have a nominated charity every year that they raise money for, iirc this years is Children In Need.

Don't shoot the messanger, this is just as was told to the disabled group.

I tend to agree with Standee regarding the amount of influence any fans group would have with the club, to have any sort of influence the membership must be active and voluble. If i were in charge of running the club i wouldn't listen to an organisation that had only 100/200 members when this represents around 1% of active fans. In this case numbers do tell and organising this type of group when fans are disgrunteld will only create a kind of siege mentality within the higher reaches of the club.
They can sit tight and wait for things to turn around,voting with your feet is the only real difference.
I too will miss matches this season due to Friday/Saturday night changes but feel the club need to realise they are dis- enfranchising sections of the crowd with their attempts at running the club on strict proffesional lines.
I do not think sitting in a pub with 40/50 people trying to set an agenda ,each with their own gripe is going to work .
However good luck and if you are playing the numbers game i will gladly contribute.
My only wish is to watch a winning team and i am fairly sure that also is the club policy.

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Wish you all the best chums but don't think I'll personally make it to meetings regularly. Will lend my support to things as an when agendas etc and action plans are released.

so then what we do is buy a shirt and wait outside training and ask the players to sign it! Jobs a good 'un! Anybody with stalking experience??

we could also try and get a fanzine up and running, get wilf to write a piece or publish hid diary in it. Also contact other teams members of there forums for an alternative look at upcoming games! The list could be endless!

The 'Life For A Kid Foundation' would be happy to help out. Dean Hoggard and myself have had a brief discussion about how both HISA and LFKF could benefit each other.....So.....If you would like to add us (and the power of the GB Allstars charity machine

) to the mix......Let us know!
At least this way.....any charitable events held by HISA (or whatever it shall be named) they will have a positive direction for the funds.....as well as any RL related funds!

Steve Prescott fund?

I take people's points on board about not been able to influence the club but if we just accept that as a given without coming together and trying then what is the point in wanting to change anything in life?

We can have a damn good go at this and at the end of the day if we can contribute in a positive way and get links, parnerships in place with the club, fc irregulars, kids foundation, vp's association, black and whites, ex players, FC Irregulars etc we may be heading in the right direction.

Doing nothing isn't always the answer!

Thats the type of attitude we need, well said sir. Plenty of RL clubs have an ISA that do lots of good work for the club and have a voice at the table. Thats not to say it always gets heard but its better than nothing IMO.

Although I agree wholeheartedly with Steves fund.....He does have a committee already dedicated to raising money......LFKF has also got strong links to the RL community and has some real stars of the game (albeit ex-pro's) giving their time to our cause......Schoey, Paul Newlove, Tommy Martyn, Steve Hampson and Graham Steadman amongst them. We have Radders, Ikram Butt and James Graham as patrons (Proud patrons they are too!!!).
All I'm saying is.....We are willing to help out......If needed

We could possibly provide a link to all the other ISA's with the players we have.

Sounds a good idea...the strength or success of the new org will depend on it's links with other ISA's and partners.

has the brother popped his clogs

and to think he started this thread

No im here JIMMY, hows about that