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| Quote ="spegs"My god, are you 12? As his employer Hull can, and should sack him. They won't because, as an organisation, we are weak and have no discipline, ethics or standards.'"
I don't think the clubs chairman is in a position to criticise someone for drink driving
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"The chairman is sure to discipline him.......Oh wait a minute......
Think this is disgraceful. Unfortunately drink driving and the reckless endangerment to others it brings doesn't carry the stigma it used to.
Talanoa Seymor Bowden.....the chairman.
Apparently you have to be pi#sed before they let you drive home from training.'"
And Ben Cockend is such a fine example . Also how did the squad Xmas night out end up ?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"And Ben Cockend is such a fine example . Also how did the squad Xmas night out end up ?'"
Bowden gave them all a lift home apparently.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"The chairman is sure to discipline him.......Oh wait a minute......
Think this is disgraceful. Unfortunately drink driving and the reckless endangerment to others it brings doesn't carry the stigma it used to.
Talanoa Seymor Bowden.....the chairman.
Apparently you have to be pi#sed before they let you drive home from training.'"
But at least he wasn't using a mobile. And that that from someone who is very familiar with the law.
Having said that the over reaction on here is laughable. Anybody who is found guilty of a road traffic offence deserves the punishment they get in a court of law but but players aren't employed for their driving ability (or lack of it) and it is irrelevant to their normal job.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"And Ben Cockend is such a fine example . Also how did the squad Xmas night out end up ?'"
if i remember correctly liam watts was driving not ben cockayne in that incident.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Bowden gave them all a lift home apparently.'"
The big white van with the blue light on top certainly never took them home !
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| Quote ="redjohno"if i remember correctly liam watts was driving not ben cockayne in that incident.'"
Forgot about that one ! I was referring to the CCTV footage of an altercation in the street . Did this not lead to his departure from HKR ?
Then you paid a fee to get him back !
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| How long was Pearsons ban for driving a lethal weapon whilst drunk?
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| It's pathetic that people try to use this as an intercity ing contest.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's pathetic that people try to use this as an intercity ing contest.'"
Very well said sir. All very school yard. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's pathetic that people try to use this as an intercity ing contest.'"
I agree with you some people have very selective memory's, both clubs have players who have committed misdemeanours in the past.
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| Yep totally agree.
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| Most with any brains at all keep quiet because invariably it will be their turn next!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Most with any brains at all keep quiet because invariably it will be their turn next!'"
Eh? Their turn to drink drive? What you on about!
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| Obviously can't speak for him but presume he means only a matter of time before a player on either side has an "incident".
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Most with any brains at all keep quiet because invariably it will be their turn next!'"
Says the guy who can't resist having a dig at Hull FCs closest rivals in his weekly rant.
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| Quote ="ian j"Obviously can't speak for him but presume he means only a matter of time before a player on either side has an "incident".'"
I forgot what a Dangerous old place this is, Yep I meant that It doesn't do to cast the first stone because someone from your side will be next to transgress; thanks for that ian j spot on!!
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| No problem. Glad I got it right as I'm scared of dentists!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's pathetic that people try to use this as an intercity ing contest.'"
Pathetic is drink driving.
It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver.
It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug.
Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem.
Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Pathetic is drink driving.
It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver.
It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug.
Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem.
Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.'"
I dont disagree,
However.
Cockayne Kelly and ADAM WALKER
say no more
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Pathetic is drink driving.
It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver.
It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug.
Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem.
Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.'"
I don't disagree with you about drink driving either but before you suggest excessive drinking is solely a Hull FC problem you should have a word with Maurice Blair about the effects the mind altering chemical had on his behaviour last Saturday night.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Pathetic is drink driving.
It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver.
It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug.
Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem.
Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.'"
I know this is you I'm replying to but don't be ridiculous.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"I dont disagree,
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Cockayne Kelly and ADAM WALKER
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Didn't realise these 3 had been done for drink driving.
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| whilst DD is a disgracefully selfish act sacking him isn't so easy an option as people might think especially given it's away from his 'workplace' and in his own time. Of course it could be classed as bringing the club into disrepute but might not in itself automatically be classed as gross misconduct with grounds for summary dismissal. Drink related misdemeanours can be specified in a contract of employment enough that are grounds for such but I doubt the club would have that in players contracts.
Given the incidences of players getting tanked up and stepping out of line (in whatever way that manifests itself) within RL circles and the bad impression/socially irresponsible behaviour that portrays especially with regard to children following the club/player involved maybe it's time clubs took a hard line and state drink related offences that end up with criminal proceedings (& found guilty) ARE gross misconduct and subject to summary dismissal after accruing all the facts and following proper procedure.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I know this is you I'm replying to but don't be ridiculous.'"
Ridiculous? How do measure the problem then. If an organisation has 30 employees (players) and one is CONVICTED in court almost yearly for the past five plus years then is that serious.....if not could you explain at what stage does it become serious.
Don't let your blind support affect your morals will you.....
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