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| Quote ="Standee"reading books, articles, having a sports science qualification, having being involved in fitness (admittedly P/T) for 15 years until I quit last year, speaking to players from RL and many other sports.
I am far from an "up to the minute expert", but I do know what has been said to me about Mallinsons practices in the past.
and you?'"
Never claimed to have any knowledge of the world of sports science, just wondered where you got yours.
Check who was conditioning coach when we last won any silverware by the way
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Never claimed to have any knowledge of the world of sports science, just wondered where you got yours.
Check who was conditioning coach when we last won any silverware by the way
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6 years ago, he was stale at FC, anyway, KR board is the next one down......
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| Quote ="Standee"6 years ago, he was stale at FC, anyway, KR board is the next one down......'"
Why would i want to go there? I was just questioning your statement that we never troubled the playoffs while BM was conditioning coach, which as you probably realise now is completly un-true. in fact as our league finishes show in recent years it is quite the opposite. I have no axe to grind either way, but also pointed out that the quality of the player is quite a major reason for success or failure.
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| More details on the appointments on the club's website:
[urlhttp://www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19259[/url
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| welcome aboard to them both,the shake up continues,wow what a busy few weeks,assistant to be named next then season pass prices then a couple more signings,exciting times ahead,roll on 2012
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| Quote ="wolfie"welcome aboard to them both,the shake up continues,wow what a busy few weeks,assistant to be named next then season pass prices then a couple more signings,exciting times ahead,roll on 2012
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Should we be looking forward to a big week next week, wolfie?
The new conditioning team seem to have experienced a lot of different environments at least with plenty of academic qualifications. Interesting that he's not into the flogging the team to death idea and is a bit more progressive than that. Would still have preferred an NRL conditioner, just for someone more proven at the top level in RL, but hopefully this will work out well. If nothing else, having a clearout pretty much across the backroom staff, could in itself provide some energy and impetus to the squad.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"More details on the appointments on the club's website:
[urlhttp://www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19259[/url'"
I hope that at least some of those who say they are "underwhelmed" by his appointment will read this and think perhaps he ought to be given at least one day with the players before they judge. It would appear that his CV is probably not that bad after all. Perhaps he needs to revisit his LinkedIn page.
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| "Being tired at the end of a session is not a yardstick anymore. We can't just flog them, we need to see every aspect of their performance improve. There must be a strong rationale behind every part of our training process, we'll work them hard and monitor their progress to know each and every player is getting better."
This comment in the Mail is something I welcome very much.
The days of them been flogged are long gone! - Sick of been plagued by pathetic injuries... Train them well and train them right!
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| Quote ="Roland_R""Being tired at the end of a session is not a yardstick anymore. We can't just flog them, we need to see every aspect of their performance improve. There must be a strong rationale behind every part of our training process, we'll work them hard and monitor their progress to know each and every player is getting better."
This comment in the Mail is something I welcome very much.
The days of them been flogged are long gone! - Sick of been plagued by pathetic injuries... Train them well and train them right!'"
"it simply isn’t acceptable anymore to have players running around a field.
“Being tired at the end of a session is not a yardstick anymore, we can’t just flog them."
Billy will be up in arms.
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| Is David Howes now writing the club's press-releases too now?
Devlin may prove a good appointment, who knows?
...but to describe him as "vastly experienced" is, quite frankly, an insult to the fans' intelligence!
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| Quote ="major black""it simply isn’t acceptable anymore to have players running around a field.
“Being tired at the end of a session is not a yardstick anymore, we can’t just flog them."
Billy will be up in arms.'"
Yea no more ten mile runs on Brantingham Hills! For no apparent reason! Silly old bugger!
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| Quote ="downtheante"I hope that at least some of those who say they are "underwhelmed" by his appointment will read this and think perhaps he ought to be given at least one day with the players before they judge. It would appear that his CV is probably not that bad after all. Perhaps he needs to revisit his LinkedIn page.'"
I admit I was a bit underwhelmed after the Jennings rumour but its done now so I welcome them on board and really hope them every success.
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| I'm not in favour of husband and wife teams working as closely as this. Who's gonna get his tea ready
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| Quote ="downtheante"I hope that at least some of those who say they are "underwhelmed" by his appointment will read this and think perhaps he ought to be given at least one day with the players before they judge. It would appear that his CV is probably not that bad after all. Perhaps he needs to revisit his LinkedIn page.'"
Fully agree, I was also 'underwhelmed' it certainly does read better than his LinkedIn page and the creative writing of 'Hull-Neutral'
More high expectation than low negativity, hope they both do well and give us that extra edge on the fitness side.
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| Quote ="Roland_R"Yea no more ten mile runs on Brantingham Hills! For no apparent reason! Silly old bugger!'"
Was there mutterings of discontent from some of the senior players a few years ago that led to Mallinson leaving?
Wonder if these (?)pointless(?) runs were the reason?
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| Have my reservations but hope it proves to be a shrewd double appointment.
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| Well they both seem to have the required qualifications and not old school sloggers and floggers of the players.
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| I find Devlins "no flogging" strategy an interesting one and look forward to seeing the results. At the beginning of last season i went to a Q and A session with Justin Morgan. Rovers had started the season poorly whilst Wigan under Michael Mcguire had started like a house on fire. He explained that Rovers had adopted a no flogging policy in training whilst he knew that Mcguire was flogging his players mercilesly.
Morgans reasoning was that Rovers would grow into the season whilst Wigan would eventually fall to pieces due to it not being possibly to train and play at that intensity for a full season.
I remember sitting at the DW whilst Wigan wipped the floor with us in the play-offs on their way to the Grand Final and thinking that perhaps Mcguires strategy had been right..
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| Quote ="mikegreen673"www.rlcm.com.au/employment/positions-vacant/12870-rugby-league
Here is the job description Harlequins have issued in their bid to recruit Strength and Conditioning expertise'"
This vacancy has been filled, like many advertised by RL clubs. They have to advertise them by law but the role was offered to someone last week
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I find Devlins "no flogging" strategy an interesting one and look forward to seeing the results. At the beginning of last season i went to a Q and A session with Justin Morgan. Rovers had started the season poorly whilst Wigan under Michael Mcguire had started like a house on fire. He explained that Rovers had adopted a no flogging policy in training whilst he knew that Mcguire was flogging his players mercilesly.
Morgans reasoning was that Rovers would grow into the season whilst Wigan would eventually fall to pieces due to it not being possibly to train and play at that intensity for a full season.
I remember sitting at the DW whilst Wigan wipped the floor with us in the play-offs on their way to the Grand Final and thinking that perhaps Mcguires strategy had been right..'"
Looks like Morgan made the mistake of dismissing Wigan's training regime as 'just flogging' when it was no such thing. His second mistake was to assume that a training regime has to continue at a single pace/level of intensity for the entire year. No wonder he failed.
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| Quote ="Brian Fowler"This vacancy has been filled, like many advertised by RL clubs. They have to advertise them by law but the role was offered to someone last week
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A hatton then and not Ricky or Mathew!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I find Devlins "no flogging" strategy an interesting one and look forward to seeing the results. At the beginning of last season i went to a Q and A session with Justin Morgan. Rovers had started the season poorly whilst Wigan under Michael Mcguire had started like a house on fire. He explained that Rovers had adopted a no flogging policy in training whilst he knew that Mcguire was flogging his players mercilesly.
Morgans reasoning was that Rovers would grow into the season whilst Wigan would eventually fall to pieces due to it not being possibly to train and play at that intensity for a full season.
I remember sitting at the DW whilst Wigan wipped the floor with us in the play-offs on their way to the Grand Final and thinking that perhaps Mcguires strategy had been right..'"
Didn't know that Morgan and Mcguire were the conditioners?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Looks like Morgan made the mistake of dismissing Wigan's training regime as 'just flogging' when it was no such thing. His second mistake was to assume that a training regime has to continue at a single pace/level of intensity for the entire year. No wonder he failed.'"
Have to agree Kosh, there isnt a team or conditioner in the land who wont have some tough days mixed with lighter sessions throughout the year.
There are a lot of experts on here all of a sudden, no wonder Hull is the hotbed of the 6 pack male with legs like lamposts
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| Quote ="Brian Fowler"Have to agree Kosh, there isnt a team or conditioner in the land who wont have some tough days mixed with lighter sessions throughout the year.
There are a lot of experts on here all of a sudden, no wonder Hull is the hotbed of the 6 pack male with legs like lamposts
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| Don't know if it's already been mentioned, but my concern would be what if the club feel further down the line that one of them isn't upto the job. Would we be able to get rid of one without the other following? Or would it leave us having to find 2 positions again.
Other than that let's just give em a chance & see how they do.
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