Is he not a no tail then

Come on spill the beans or at least pm me . I still like you

I like everyone so I can I have a pm too

And there were plenty on here saying how amazing Seymour was, and how rubbish Horne was. Fact is Horne has been the least of our problems the last few years, yet he seems to be the biggest scapegoat at the club. Give me 13 Richard Hornes over the last 10 years, and we would be much better than we are now.

Horne deserves his place in the side, preferably at one, but he deserves it.

Well from my perspective I read your posts with interest, as you are right more often than not. Its also clear you know more and care more about the club than most of the cretins on here.

If a player was released from his contract say now , he wouldnt be able to play for another team this season would he ? (due to the dead line passing last friday )

Bang on, well said , the guys a legend

Hornes been one of the main reasons we've been how we've been over the last few seasons . The bloke is simply not a good enough half back for a team that wishes to win things .

Are you on something?

Name me the last time he took a game by the scruff of the neck. When was the last MoM performance - in fact, how many times has he backed up performances every week with another solid one?

The simple fact is, Horne is a local lad. If he was an Australian, you'd have been wanting him sent home. He has done nothing for years and we're carrying him.

We have been largely carrying our expensive aussie playmakers.

We should have put Horne at 1 ages ago with no worries. I also think over the last 4 seasons, Horne has probably been in the top 5 performers per match on a regular basis. He has never ever took games by the scruff of the neck. He does what he does, and IMO, does a above average job, still.

Absolute idiocy. Richard Horne is one of the most overrated players ever to pull on the great jersey. He is one of the main reasons why we haven't pushed on to silverware consistently. He is not a half-back in a winning team. We needed to put sentimentality aside years ago and stop offering him new contracts.

I wholeheartedly agree. Well said.

We've been missing a creative 7 for years, and a fullback. Not Hornes fault. The expectation is that HOrne would win every game on his own. The fact he is a good player still aludes people, as they watch the game through blinkered eyes rather than seeing the actual reality.

So what exactly does he offer?

Yes, he's Chubby Brown's tapeworm

Everyones got the right to their own opinion but to me richard horne is a legend, upto his neck/back injury and the diabitese(sp) he was a fantastic player .got to agree with smallears he should have gone to full back a few years ago . But to be short sighted and judge the guy over the last couple of seasons and disregard the years previous to that is imo bullsh@t and disrespectfull to a long serving hull fc player and like I said a LEGEND not just to me but thousands for fc fans .

I've no problem with that. To you, Richard Horne is a legend. That's fair enough. But I'm not just judging him on the past couple of years. When he first broke into the side, he didn't overraw me. I appreciate the man's loyalty. It's a quality that is unfortunately missing in a hell of a lot of players in professional sport nowadays. But we could have, and should have, replaced him with better years ago.

If we've only kept Horne because he's a local lad why have we not kept King, Washy, hall, tommy Lee etc, it's a ridiculous argument. He has more try assists than anyone at the club this season and is by far the best support player we have. He should be our full back for the rest of this season and next too.

You don't think him being a local lad has played a part?

Are you out of your tiny little mind???? For a solid 2 seasons Horne was the only reason to bother turning up to games. When he had his pace he was lethal. For the sake of sanity - get some highlight dvd's and watch him rip every opposition defense to shreds, and score shed loads of tries!

You must watch a different game to most people. Do you ever watch what Horney does in defence?

I've never considered Richard Horne to be the brightest player on the park and one of his major failings is he is an all-round player. When he finds a gap, invariably he hasn't the pace to finish his break. Whiting is similar in that respect, yet he doesn't seem to be castigated in the same way. His long-kicking game is crap but that's been known for years, so why put him into the position of kicking long?

He has proved a great servant to the club, he still has a lot to offer on the field, full-back would be an ideal posititon, given his skills, limitations and all-round commitment. That's not sentiment talking, that's watching his game and wondering who we'd replace him with given what's available and affordable. Coming back from a serious neck injury and diabetes takes a certain level of mental toughness - a quality that cannot be bought. That comes with a love of the game and more importantly a love of the team you are playing for.

For my money, Rich Horne can still bring something to the game, if for nothing else, he can show upcoming players that it's not all about how many tries you score or how many tackles you break or make. It's about how you can contribute to making the TEAM a functioning unit. That even after suffering personal setbacks, you can still go out there and perform and more importantly, help others perform at a better level.

Every SL team has at least one Richard Horne in their squad, some of us just seem to be more inclined to dwell on his negatives than any positives he may bring.

Richard Horne has been a great servant to the club but everyone eventually has to accept that there is a time to change direction when he makes that decision which only he can make I hope the club offer him a suitable off field role and he can continue to be a valuable member of HFCs family.

And yet again, a discussion turns into childish insults. It is an opinion. It is my opinion. Obviously you have a different one. I never saw Richard Horne 'rip' every opposition defence to shreds.

Chico Jackson gets called a legend on here, Knocker and Sterlo combined he was not