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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Wow "soft pussy wussy". That's really telling 'em!!'"
It was a light hearted way of conveying my thoughts on such part time supporters, perhaps you didn't get that, I did put a smiley at the end as a clue.
If I said what I really thought I'm pretty sure that I would be banned indefinitely, but as I had no wish to be, I thought a simple light hearted phrase of type was suffice.
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| Quote ="paintman"Are you really comparing the view from the Gordon st end at the Boulevard to the thing you laughingly call a stand.
Unbelievable'"
Slightly better view due to the elevation but distance wise just as bad if not worse!! there was about a 30ft walkway from the stand to the barrier!!! suppose some fans only see what they want to see??
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"Slightly better view due to the elevation but distance wise just as bad if not worse!! there was about a 30ft walkway from the stand to the barrier!!! suppose some fans only see what they want to see??'"
And we dont see much from the South Stand
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"Slightly better view due to the elevation but distance wise just as bad if not worse!! there was about a 30ft walkway from the stand to the barrier!!! suppose some fans only see what they want to see??'"
Not even close, at the Rovers South stand you can't see anything at distance because it's too low and far away, hard to see the try line closest as it's too low and advertising barriers in the way.
Even Odsal is a better view, i can't believe that any Rovers fans can defend that stand, worst view I have ever had and thats including many lower league grounds.
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| Quote ="paintman"And we dont see much from the South Stand'"
Don't think i'm condoning the view from the south as I agree it's bad, but it is what it is and moaning every year will not change anything! i'm just making the point that certain fans love to make a fuss about it when in reality the boulevard wasn't much better !
At the end of the day if you want to come fine, if not also fine!! I won't lose too much sleep, same as if I decide not to go to your ground in the reverse fixture!!
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| Quote ="paintman"At least you could see from both ends at the old Craven Park.'"
That is true you could, one end in particular was uncovered,whilst the other(the toke end) was partially covered by a small shed but the view wasn't to bad as I remember.
However, the old Boulevard wasn't much different from the current south stand at Craven park in relation to the distance from the pitch side, the only probable difference been the terracing was at a slightly steeper angle at the Gordon street end.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"That is true you could, one end in particular was uncovered,whilst the other(the toke end) was partially covered by a small shed but the view wasn't to bad as I remember.
However, the old Boulevard wasn't much different from the current south stand at Craven park in relation to the distance from the pitch side, the only probable difference been the terracing was at a slightly steeper angle at the Gordon street end.'"
And Gordon st was at least 3 times higher enabling you to get a better view of the game.
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| Quote ="paintman"And Gordon st was at least 3 times higher enabling you to get a better view of the game.'"
Which to be fair is what i meant when i said it was at a slightly steeper angle, it was still bloody cold at times though, in fact so cold sometimes that when it was time to visit the open loo, the one that ran the full length of Gordon street end, behind the back of the terracing, my you know what didn't want to know.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Which to be fair is what i meant when i said it was at a slightly steeper angle, it was still bloody cold at times though, in fact so cold sometimes that when it was time to visit the open loo, the one that ran the full length of Gordon street end, behind the back of the terracing, my you know what didn't want to know.'"
Both grounds where cold but I think the atmosphere was better than it is now on Derby days.Too many derbies now imo
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You sir are the first ever Rovers fan I've come across that likes to dwell on the past. No really.
My point which you so spectacularly managed to miss is that nobody should have to give an "excuse" for not attending the game. Whatever the reason happens to be it is valid to that person otherwise they would be going. Whether you think its valid or not is immaterial.'"
Goodness, wow!!, the first eh, how do you do sir!!, where on earth have you been hiding all these years.?
For your information I don't dwell on the past any more than most long standing Rovers fans or FC fans for that matter of whom I include many friends, though admittedly I have had (to date) a reasonably long and occasionally eventful past, of which hopefully I use to my advantage, both in the present and moving forward, in fact you must understand and learn from your past to live your best now and be able to plan for your future, you should try it sometime.
With regards to spectacularly missing your point about supporters not needing to give an excuse for not attending.
I didn't miss it, I was pointing out the fact that quite a few supporters of both sides appear to use the same excuses for not attending each others grounds in the modern era. e.g. poor facilities, or don't want to put money into their coffers etc, as valid as they may be, they are still (for what ever reason) excuses that you rarely came across twenty or thirty years ago.
I also went on to say in a light hearted fashion that......In my opinion, anyone who comes out with such excuses is either a part time supporter or a soft pussy wussy.
It was an opinion, my opinion, OK.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"It was an opinion, my opinion, OK.'"
No it's not ok.
1 day before a Derby your opinion is not allowed on our board
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| Quote ="paintman"Both grounds where cold but I think the atmosphere was better than it is now on Derby days.Too many derbies now imo'"
Yes I would especially agree with you on that aspect.
The big build up to the games would start at least one week before and would intensify as time progressed.
I used to work for a large components factory in those days on Hessle road and because of its location the bulk of the workforce were Hull fc fans, which always made it even more important that we win, otherwise life would be unbearable the following week at work, I've even known fans throw a sickie rather than face the aftermath at work of a defeat.
Life around the city centre was also notably different in the week or two prior to the game, the banter in the pubs was constant and even the last buses home (11pm) in the evening would be eventful, with Rovers and Hull fC fans trying their hardest to out sing each other on the way home.
Derby day itself would usually start with people packing out and singing in the pubs before eventually heading of to the grounds which were always packed out to the rafters.
Although the passion of the fans today is still there in the abundance, as ever, I sometimes feel that there is not quite the same intensity and magic about it at the moment and I believe as you do, that to many derbies in a season may be one of the reasons, just my opinion of course.
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"Slightly better view due to the elevation but distance wise just as bad if not worse!! there was about a 30ft walkway from the stand to the barrier!!! suppose some fans only see what they want to see??'"
I couldn't even see what I wanted to see stood down the side at the Boulevard, in front of the 'best' stand - all you could see was the person in front of you cos the steps were that small, or at best the players ankles
We've both moved on, we have to stand/sit behind the sticks at most away games, you just have to accept it.
I hope enough 'ull fans come to create a decent atmosphere and that everyone behaves themselves - that's directed at both sides.
May the best team win
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Yes I would especially agree with you on that aspect.
The big build up to the games would start at least one week before and would intensify as time progressed.
I used to work for a large components factory in those days on Hessle road and because of its location the bulk of the workforce were Hull fc fans, which always made it even more important that we win, otherwise life would be unbearable the following week at work, I've even known fans throw a sickie rather than face the aftermath at work of a defeat.
Life around the city centre was also notably different in the week or two prior to the game, the banter in the pubs was constant and even the last buses home (11pm) in the evening would be eventful, with Rovers and Hull fC fans trying their hardest to out sing each other on the way home.
Derby day itself would usually start with people packing out and singing in the pubs before eventually heading of to the grounds which were always packed out to the rafters.
Although the passion of the fans today is still there in the abundance, as ever, I sometimes feel that there is not quite the same intensity and magic about it at the moment and I believe as you do, that to many derbies in a season may be one of the reasons, just my opinion of course.'"
Agree with all of that
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Those of us on here old enough to remember the derby games of old, played during the winter months at the old Craven park and the Boulevard will also remember the grounds been filled to the rafters on derby days.
Both grounds facilities in those days were no where near the standards of today but you rarely heard people saying.... I'm not going to this or that sh..t hole, such was the fanatical passion of both sets of supporters .
I cannot understand any fan of either side who say they wont go to either of the two grounds on the basis that it puts money in the others coffers or the ground is cr..p etc etc.
In my opinion, anyone who comes out with such excuses is either a part time supporter or a soft pussy wussy .
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I'm not old enough to remember those days but I'm guessing that there wasn't the same number of derbies as there is these days. + I imagine they weren't all televised too.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"That is true you could, one end in particular was uncovered,whilst the other(the toke end) was partially covered by a small shed but the view wasn't to bad as I remember.
However, the old Boulevard wasn't much different from the current south stand at Craven park in relation to the distance from the pitch side, the only probable difference been the terracing was at a slightly steeper angle at the Gordon street end.'"
Surely you mean the tote end?
Place was a sheethole but infinitely better than the current caravan park for watching a game.
Biggest difference now is the fans are in separate stands whereas in the good old days you could mix. I remember watching derbies in the "popular" stand at the old CP and in the east stand at the current one. Much better atmosphere
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Place was a sheethole but infinitely better than the current caravan park for watching a game.
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Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.
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| Quote ="Easty"Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.'"
Apart from the shocking "best" stand of course
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| Quote ="Easty"Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.'"
Bulldozer ??
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Apart from the shocking "best" stand of course'"
The fans that go in there every other week enjoy the high up view. You get a great picture of plays forming and get a much better understanding of how teams play. Don't know why you have a downer on it I've watched many an academy game from there and never had a problem with the view or facilities. Granted it could be wider which would improve it massively but it isn't shocking.
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers Pitch looking great ahead of the derby.
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Restricted view seat?
Is that like the box with iron girders in the windows?
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| Quote ="Easty"The fans that go in there every other week enjoy the high up view. You get a great picture of plays forming and get a much better understanding of how teams play. Don't know why you have a downer on it I've watched many an academy game from there and never had a problem with the view or facilities. Granted it could be wider which would improve it massively but it isn't shocking.'"
Except 50% of seats have restricted views
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers Pitch looking great ahead of the derby.
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Funny how you arnt showing many pictures from the south end..can't your camera/phone take a long distance shot?
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