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| Quote ="Chris28"If anyone had watched Huddersfield (and tbh other sides) prior to the game they would see that Brough and Brown throw long cut out passes that will leave a side with an inability to slide the defence effectively in all sorts of bother.
Their tactics on Sunday were spot on and they wreaked havoc. Yes Sharp has a weakness but he is being hung out to dry by our shocking tactics. Even I could see the long passes coming, yet our defence was almost rooted to the spot, watching the ball. Surely the game plan involved an element of preparation for long passes exploiting the compressed defensive line???'"
It seems to be a common trend to slate the winger who is not from Hull (backlock, Sing, Calderwood...) by those who clearly have no idea how the game is played.
Sharp clearly is not without fault and yes he makes errors in most games. But he also does a fair amount of work which some choose to ignore.
FWIW, The reason Huddersfield beat us was our inability to pass (Obst and Westerman were key offenders with notables efforts from Gleeson), our inability to catch (Gleeson, tickle, dowes, Yeaman, Briscoe and Sharp. Not forgetting Turner who had the easiest of all to take which actually would have put us in front) and the fact that Hudds have a player who has the best kicking game, has a good passing game and is also very nippy who in our wisdom we released because we had a weak coach at the time.
Of course some will simply blame Will Sharp.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"It seems to be a common trend to slate the winger who is not from Hull =#0000BF(backlock, Sing, Calderwood...) by those who clearly have no idea how the game is played.
Sharp clearly is not without fault and yes he makes errors in most games. But he also does a fair amount of work which some choose to ignore.
FWIW, The reason Huddersfield beat us was our inability to pass (Obst and Westerman were key offenders with notables efforts from Gleeson), our inability to catch (Gleeson, tickle, dowes, Yeaman, Briscoe and Sharp. Not forgetting Turner who had the easiest of all to take which actually would have put us in front) and the fact that Hudds have a player who has the best kicking game, has a good passing game and is also very nippy who in our wisdom we released because we had a weak coach at the time.
Of course some will simply blame Will Sharp.
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all those wingers where poor for us just like sharpe. raynor was not from hull but he never got slated because he was a class act. i have no idea why we got rid of craig hall who is a points machine but is a bit shakey in defence for this clown
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| Quote ="black and white"all those wingers where poor for us just like sharpe. raynor was not from hull but he never got slated because he was a class act.[u i have no idea why we got rid of craig hall [/uwho is a points machine but is a bit shakey in defence for this clown'"
Not exactly ripping it up over in East Hull is he???? Even morgan seems to have forgotten about him!
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| Quote ="black and white"all those wingers where poor for us just like sharpe. raynor was not from hull but he never got slated because he was a class act. i have no idea why we got rid of craig hall who is a points machine but is a bit shakey in defence for this clown'"
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but judging by your stunning ignorance and lack of appreciation of how the game is played, I think you should be stripped of the right to any view point.
With regard to your comments on Hall, you emphesis my first point.
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| imo i dont think sharp is the best defender ive seen, plus hes left out on his own most times and bingo we have a bloke whos our new scrapegoat
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"It seems to be a common trend to slate the winger who is not from Hull (backlock, Sing, Calderwood...) by those who clearly have no idea how the game is played.
Sharp clearly is not without fault and yes he makes errors in most games. But he also does a fair amount of work which some choose to ignore.
[uFWIW, The reason Huddersfield beat us was our inability to pass (Obst and Westerman were key offenders with notables efforts from Gleeson), our inability to catch (Gleeson, tickle, dowes, Yeaman, Briscoe and Sharp. Not forgetting Turner who had the easiest of all to take which actually would have put us in front) and the fact that Hudds have a player who has the best kicking game, has a good passing game and is also very nippy who in our wisdom we released because we had a weak coach at the time.[/[/ub
Of course some will simply blame Will Sharp.
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Very true. Add to that a lack of pace in the middle and at times tactical naivety that school kids would be embarrassed by and it is clear why we are fighting for 8th spot. After watching the game on Sky it was clear that Sharp was no worse than the rest of our right side though at the game he looked to have had a nightmare. I don't think he's good enough regardless of that but what's worse is our inability to fix that right side up regardless of who plays there.
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| what i don't get is, when sharp comes inside to close gap between wing and centre, sharp gets blamed, also, when he stays on his wing he gets blamed.
quick to jump on his back when makes a mistake, but then when he took a few high bombs well, takes a tricky ball in his own in-goal and works hard in offence,they don't/won't praise him!!!!
alot of Hull fans annoying me at the moment, not putting their brains into gear befoe speaking.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Very true. Add to that a lack of pace in the middle and at times tactical naivety that school kids would be embarrassed by and it is clear why we are fighting for 8th spot. After watching the game on Sky it was clear that Sharp was no worse than the rest of our right side though at the game he looked to have had a nightmare. I don't think he's good enough regardless of that but what's worse is our inability to fix that right side up regardless of who plays there.'"
Blame the tactics not the players
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| We should just keep behind Sharpy, he's only young and he needs our support. We brought him here because he was outstanding at Quins. His development can be severely effected by the crowd reacting in the wrong way.
We are quite good at jeering a player when they've had a bad run and so draining their confidence, when really they need to know we are with them. Just Ask Motu Tony! If a player of international standing can lose his game confidence, then so can a young lad new to the club. So lets make him, not ruin him.
As long as he wears black and white he gets my support, if he's not delivering then the coach will deal with it.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"It seems to be a common trend to slate the winger who is not from Hull (backlock, Sing, Calderwood...) by those who clearly have no idea how the game is played.
Sharp clearly is not without fault and yes he makes errors in most games. But he also does a fair amount of work which some choose to ignore.
FWIW, The reason Huddersfield beat us was our inability to pass (Obst and Westerman were key offenders with notables efforts from Gleeson), our inability to catch (Gleeson, tickle, dowes, Yeaman, Briscoe and Sharp. Not forgetting Turner who had the easiest of all to take which actually would have put us in front) and the fact that Hudds have a player who has the best kicking game, has a good passing game and is also very nippy who in our wisdom we released because we had a weak coach at the time.
Of course some will simply blame Will Sharp.
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What you say here is so true
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"and the fact that Hudds have a player who has the best kicking game, has a good passing game and is also very nippy who in our wisdom we released because we had a weak coach at the time.'"
Brough [iwanted[/i to leave. And the reason was in fact the exact opposite of what you claim.
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| Quote ="Uppo58"We should just keep behind Sharpy, he's only young and he needs our support. We brought him here because he was outstanding at Quins. His development can be severely effected by the crowd reacting in the wrong way.
We are quite good at jeering a player when they've had a bad run and so draining their confidence, when really they need to know we are with them. Just Ask Motu Tony! If a player of international standing can lose his game confidence, then so can a young lad new to the club. So lets make him, not ruin him.
As long as he wears black and white he gets my support, if he's not delivering then the coach will deal with it.'"
People are having a go about Sharp on here because theyve had time to think about the game. I never heard anyone actually slagging him off at the game though.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Brough [iwanted[/i to leave. And the reason was in fact the exact opposite of what you claim.'"
Careful Kosh,this could turn into a "We failed to sign Dobson" scenario.
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| Quote ="Offy"what i don't get is, when sharp comes inside to close gap between wing and centre, sharp gets blamed, also, when he stays on his wing he gets blamed.
quick to jump on his back when makes a mistake, but then when he took a few high bombs well, takes a tricky ball in his own in-goal and works hard in offence,they don't/won't praise him!!!!
alot of Hull fans annoying me at the moment, not putting their brains into gear befoe speaking.'"
What he said.
I thought that Sharp was no worse than several other players, and at the moment he seems to be receiving an unfair amount of criticism.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"People are having a go about Sharp on here because theyve had time to think about the game. I never heard anyone actually slagging him off at the game though.'"
There was plenty near us.
I do think we, as fans do not help a lot of players, by the negativity we give out, if they are having a poor game. We are supposed to be 'supporters' after all.
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| Quote ="GJJ 79"There was plenty near us.
I do think we, as fans do not help a lot of players, by the negativity we give out, if they are having a poor game. We are supposed to be 'supporters' after all.'"
Well said,though I admit I made an exception in Thorman`s case.
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| Quote ="Uppo58"We should just keep behind Sharpy, he's only young and he needs our support. =#FF0000We brought him here because he was outstanding at Quins. His development can be severely effected by the crowd reacting in the wrong way.'"
I dont think he was outstanding at Quins, he was making the same mistakes there as he is now.
For what its worth, I think the high bomb to the corners is a tactic that pays off alot. There are not many wingers in the world you feel 100% confident about coming down with the ball under alot of pressure from the chasers.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"People are having a go about Sharp on here because theyve had time to think about the game. I never heard anyone actually slagging him off at the game though.'"
Didn't think you went anymore
People slate Sharp because he is an easy scapegoat.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Brough [iwanted[/i to leave. And the reason was in fact the exact opposite of what you claim.'"
So we had a strong coach??
I am not buying that. Peter Sharp may well have been a disciplinarian, but his man management skills were clearly at fault to allow a talent like Brough to leave. He may not have been the polished article in 2006 he is right now, but all the skills were ready to be honed.
Peter Sharp was hindered by an appauling injury record but his tactics we are still seeing he legacy of to this day.
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| rupert like fox you mean
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| Quote ="hull2524"rupert like fox you mean
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He's been on this, the Ellis thread and the McKinnon one slagging all three players off!
Go away RP, no one cares what you think!
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| Got nothing against the lad at all, but as I said in an earlier post it's the defence and go-to play option for the opposition which is most worrying for me leaving them with the kick to/attack the winger scenario in the bank if/when other options fail.
Obviously at weekend TB didn't exactly cover himself in glory (aka sh!!!te) but as a general rule I prefer bigger stronger wingers like your Briscoes, Richards, R Halls of this world making it more difficult to attack the wings and also more dangerous on the returns.
With an open run, interception or put into a big gap Sharpe is brilliant (I've seen the lad go!) but I would much prefer a bulldog than a whippet.
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| If we swapped Briscoe and Sharp around Briscoe might not be in the England squad.
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| Feel sorry for this kid,he is one of the most enthusiastic players on the field even after he's made a mistake.Always one of the first to take the ball up.
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