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| Quote ="Keiththered"Quote Stanley said he would never have signed for FC if he’d had the choice.'" That is what I was referring to. Accept it or not there is no hole only in your imagination.'"
You stated Stanley would rather walk on hot coals before joining Hull.
You said he didn't have a choice back then. He certainly does now.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"You stated Stanley would rather walk on hot coals before joining Hull.
You said he didn't have a choice back then. He certainly does now.'"
To be fair Stan came to England from PNG never seeing water come from a tap, it was only after his move to West Hull that Stan saw this miracle.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Stanley said he would never have signed for FC if he’d had the choice. That is what I was referring to. Accept it or not there is no hole only in your imagination.'"
That's not what he said to me when I was sat in his flat above Suds on Holderness road. He said he thought he HAD signed for Hull FC.
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| Maybe with Gene on board, we can scout PNG for a project.
They never let anyone down and their distribution is first class; see Marcus Bai as prime example, I defy anyone else could have played that ball in Cardiff 05.
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| Quote ="GrahamBray"Maybe with Gene on board, we can scout PNG for a project.
They never let anyone down and their distribution is first class; see Marcus Bai as prime example, I defy anyone else could have played that ball in Cardiff 05.'"
I can hear Ray French now 'ohhhhh what has he done?!?!'
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| Quote ="Raggytash"That's not what he said to me when I was sat in his flat above Suds on Holderness road. He said he thought he HAD signed for Hull FC.'"
Think you are a bit mixed up. When he originally signed it was as. Makeweight so his PNG international buddy would not be lonely. He thought then he had signed for “Hull” and was confused about there being two clubs.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://twitter.com/GaryCarter_1979/status/1567793639757156355?t=f8e9eV0tDEtnAmGLu4XiLw&s=19'"
Just wish the club would hurry up and get it officially announced.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Just wish the club would hurry up and get it officially announced.'"
Every man and his dog knows
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Just wish the club would hurry up and get it officially announced.'"
They only sacked Hodgson 2 days ago, I think 2 days is pretty good, compare this when Radford was sacked, took us 6 months plus to announce his replacement and even then we got the wrong coach.
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| Quote ="Dave K."They only sacked Hodgson 2 days ago, I think 2 days is pretty good, compare this when Radford was sacked, took us 6 months plus to announce his replacement and even then we got the wrong coach.'"
My comment Dave is based on the RL press have pretty much confirmed the appointment on social media. The club just need to get it confirmed now.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"My comment Dave is based on the RL press have pretty much confirmed the appointment on social media. The club just need to get it confirmed now.'"
Hopefully soon, probably 99% done, hopefully Pearson agreeing to a bit of cash to touch up the squad.
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| Quote ="Dave K."They only sacked Hodgson 2 days ago, I think 2 days is pretty good, compare this when Radford was sacked, took us 6 months plus to announce his replacement and even then we got the wrong coach.'"
Its even more mental when you consider the interim coach got us 80 minutes away from a grand final and a play off victory.
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| Wonder if Hodgson fancies a go at Wakey
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| Quote ="mwindass"Wonder if Hodgson fancies a go at Wakey'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals [uthere's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds)[/u since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.'"
Smaller still now. Great and gallant effort by Salford but in the end yet another final with the same old same old participants.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Smaller still now. Great and gallant effort by Salford but in the end yet another final with the same old same old participants.'"
Yup, Grand Final appearances:
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Smaller still now. Great and gallant effort by Salford but in the end yet another final with the same old same old participants.'"
Despite having a salary cap it's disappointing that SL is not more competitive.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Yup, Grand Final appearances:
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I think even that makes it look better than it is, given that the seven appearances listed last were all runner-ups and Bradford’s last GF was 2005.
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| Imagine the business case for investing in a club not in that top 3 group.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I think even that makes it look better than it is, given that the seven appearances listed last were all runner-ups and Bradford’s last GF was 2005.'"
Good point, MR.
In fact you have to right back to 1988-89 and Widnes when someone other than Wigan, Leeds, Saints or Bradord were RL champions.
Mind you it could be worse. In Scottish football only Celtic or Rangers have been Champions since 1985-86 and between them they've won all but four league titles since the mid 60s (and three of those were consecutive seasons in the 1980s).
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| Seeing that we're now 26 years into super league, I wonder how this concentration of the title in so few clubs compares to the 26 years beforehand.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Seeing that we're now 26 years into super league, I wonder how this concentration of the title in so few clubs compares to the 26 years beforehand.'"
Wigan were Champions for each of the last seven seasons before Super League but between 1970-71 and 1988-89 the following clubs won the league
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Leeds
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Good point, MR.
In fact you have to right back to 1988-89 and Widnes when someone other than Wigan, Leeds, Saints or Bradord were RL champions.
Mind you it could be worse. In Scottish football only Celtic or Rangers have been Champions since 1985-86 and between them they've won all but four league titles since the mid 60s (and three of those were consecutive seasons in the 1980s).'"
Yep. Bayern Munich made it 10 in a row Bundesliga titles earlier this year. It’s not unique to SL.
However, a point I’ve made (i.e. absolutely flogged to death) recently is that I doubt Rangers or Celtic fans go around spouting off about their superior culture and how they do things the right way to fans of Motherwell, St Johnstone or Kilmarnock. Or, if they do, I imagine fans of those other clubs at least have the gumption to tell them where to stick it.
Even US sport, which is generally considered much better balanced saw the Patriots reach 9 and win 6 Super Bowls in 18 seasons, and the Warriors and Cavaliers contested four NBA finals in a row. However, those runs include contenders for the greatest teams/players in their sports histories’, and there’s an assumption that it won’t go on indefinitely.
SL feels like a league where time stood still. A player being ‘ambitious and wanting to win trophies’ is synonymous with requesting a transfer to St Helens or Wigan. Is winning trophies there even impressive at this point? I’m not claiming that the lads at those clubs don’t work hard or aren’t talented, but at this point it just feels like the medals come up with their rations.
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| Now the England RU defence coach. Takes over from Seibold
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