|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1401 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bonaire"I agree we have to get back to having reserve teams
get rid of the play offs and introduce a simple bottom team relegated from Super League and the top Championship team promoted.
Also lets get back to Sunday afternoon games for all teams apart from the Sky Thurs/Fri game'"
The corporate £'s speak and (apparently) prefer Friday night games (perhaps so they can still play 18 holes on a Sunday)
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4811 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We lose virtually no players to union and only a handful to the NRL, plenty of whom have come back anyway. I've just googled the RU premiership salary cap and it's an eye watering £7m from next season (How the hell can they afford that?) and the NRL cap is $7m or about £4.25m. In reality, what level of cap increase do we need to really compete if they want our players (irrespective of the desire of a player to test himself in the NRL).
In general, RL players at the elite level in this country are very well paid at an average salary for a SL player of somewhere around £60-70k. I know they put their bodies on the line, it's a short career, earn less tan footballers etc. but the harsh reality is that they are pretty much earning every penny the clubs get from the TV deal and a fair chunk of clubs only exist because of the generosity of club owners. Personally, I see no real benefits in increasing it other than maybe a very small number of players staying put rather than moving to Oz or RU (Where the top players earn £1m+) at the expense of the competitiveness of the comp and the possible financial hardship of some clubs'"
Absolutely spot on.
The competiveness of the game may have to become it's selling point.
We're not going to get anywhere near the salary cap level of the RFU or NRL, so increasing it marginally will have very little positive impact.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1401 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Absolutely spot on.
The competiveness of the game may have to become it's selling point.
We're not going to get anywhere near the salary cap level of the RFU or NRL, so increasing it marginally will have very little positive impact.'"
Are any RL clubs making money?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 8241 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Whilst in some ways an increase would be a good thing in certain terms in regards to paying top players a more competitive financial package the negative aspects far out weighs that.
Jake is correct in his post with regards to his brief outline of the caps in the NRL & RU etc.
If the SL was awash with riches then I could see the real benefit of increasing the salary cap but the facts are if it wasn't for the TV money the clubs receive then top players would be lucky to get £1K per week. Unfortunately we can not compete with the NRL both financially or with the chance for a player to test themselves at the highest level. RU whilst not necessarily well attended at club level the level of income from TV and sponsorship etc is again something the currently SL can not compete with.
The last season or so we have seen he affect of the salary cap in that it has brought SL clubs closer in terms of results and it is now a much more competitive league than it ever has been with any club being able to beat another. This is what should the club s & RFL should be using to market the sport.
Facts are SL is not the same level as Football, RU or NRL financially and similarly being a salesman in a vauxhall dealership doesnt have the same level of earning potential as a salesman in say Ferrari or Mclaren dealership even though in essence its the same job.
Until there is a better set up all round in academies etc where young players are produced by all SL clubs on a regular basis the sport will be prohibited in getting any better.
Maybe the marquee rule could be expanded but when many clubs are not financially cash rich it would be detrimental to the sport to go back to money talking and one or two clubs dominating. Bradford being a prime example of the very real scenario of the big negative.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11644 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="ccs"www.rugby-league.com/article/39736/super-league-clubs-back-proposals-by-rugby-football-league-to-attract-and-retain-elite-talent'"
notice the quotes are only from the money bag owners!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1401 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="number 6"notice the quotes are only from the money bag owners!'"
Yup, as ever, will just create an even more disjointed competition.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1891 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Like us you mean? One of two clubs with a marquee player last year were we not?
They seem sensible increases to the cap. The rule with regards to poaching rugby union players (who I'm guessing will be the target of the New Talent dispensation) could ruffle a few feathers though.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1401 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Faithful One"Like us you mean? One of two clubs with a marquee player last year were we not?
They seem sensible increases to the cap. The rule with regards to poaching rugby union players (who I'm guessing will be the target of the New Talent dispensation) could ruffle a few feathers though.'"
Who was our marquee player, please not Pritchard, thought he had salary part paid by his former club?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11644 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Faithful One"Like us you mean? One of two clubs with a marquee player last year were we not?
They seem sensible increases to the cap. The rule with regards to poaching rugby union players (who I'm guessing will be the target of the New Talent dispensation) could ruffle a few feathers though.'"
i dont think Pearson was overly keen on raising the cap irrc
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1891 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Quote ="PCollinson1990"Who was our marquee player, please not Pritchard, thought he had salary part paid by his former club?'"
Pearson confirmed it at a fans forum. The only 'quote' I could find was on an internet forum...
Pearson: "Only Frank Pritchard and Sam Tomkins are 'marquee players', although I'm sure Wire have four or five hidden away somewhere."
But, our very own Wilf talks about Pearson confirming it at a fans forum in one of his diary's...
www.rlfans-hosting.co.uk/?p=1479
|
|
Quote ="PCollinson1990"Who was our marquee player, please not Pritchard, thought he had salary part paid by his former club?'"
Pearson confirmed it at a fans forum. The only 'quote' I could find was on an internet forum...
Pearson: "Only Frank Pritchard and Sam Tomkins are 'marquee players', although I'm sure Wire have four or five hidden away somewhere."
But, our very own Wilf talks about Pearson confirming it at a fans forum in one of his diary's...
www.rlfans-hosting.co.uk/?p=1479
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1891 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="number 6"i dont think Pearson was overly keen on raising the cap irrc'"
My point was more to do with the marquee rule, and using that when available. If our performances on the field continue to see us challenging, and the fans continue to increase in attendance, then I can see us continue to spend at the full cap. It's only an increase in £225,000 over 3 years. If season tickets remain around £200-250, it's only an extra 900-1,125 season passes.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7827 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Like it or not we have to continue to move forward with salaries.
Not a mention of having a reserve grade team for all Super League clubs.Thats a big miss in my opinion and a needed platform for younger players to develop and giving game time to players coming back from injury.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11644 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Quote ="Faithful One"Pearson confirmed it at a fans forum. The only 'quote' I could find was on an internet forum...
Pearson: "Only Frank Pritchard and Sam Tomkins are 'marquee players', although I'm sure Wire have four or five hidden away somewhere."
But, our very own Wilf talks about Pearson confirming it at a fans forum in one of his diary's...
www.rlfans-hosting.co.uk/?p=1479'"
he was right, the players the rfl were sneakily helping them with
|
|
Quote ="Faithful One"Pearson confirmed it at a fans forum. The only 'quote' I could find was on an internet forum...
Pearson: "Only Frank Pritchard and Sam Tomkins are 'marquee players', although I'm sure Wire have four or five hidden away somewhere."
But, our very own Wilf talks about Pearson confirming it at a fans forum in one of his diary's...
www.rlfans-hosting.co.uk/?p=1479'"
he was right, the players the rfl were sneakily helping them with
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 82 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| just reported on sportstalk vote went for increase and Hull FC voted for it !
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30449 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| We probably need an increased cap to pay for Kelly next year
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4924 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We probably need an increased cap to pay for Kelly next year'"
It'll be money well spent if that's the case.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 6734 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2021 | Jun 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Are any RL clubs making money?'"
i don't think many sports clubs make serious money (perhaps certain owners might though)
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30449 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| warrington made about £1m profit last year
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 7735 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Who was our marquee player, please not Pritchard, thought he had salary part paid by his former club?'"
Pritchards full salary will have been on our cap up to the marquee limit. Where the cash comes from to pay it is irrelevant this was simply a cash flow solution rather than a cap issue.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30449 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-fc-owner-adam-pearson-says-club-reluctantly-voted-for-salary-cap-rise/story-30253216-detail/story.htmlPearson's take on it[/url
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1891 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jake the Peg"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-fc-owner-adam-pearson-says-club-reluctantly-voted-for-salary-cap-rise/story-30253216-detail/story.htmlPearson's take on it[/url'"
I like the sound of being able to keep hold of the "current squad". Hopefully that means there is room for Kelly. Be interesting to see what Ellis does, my thoughts are we have to keep him at the club, one way or another.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1401 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Faithful One"I like the sound of being able to keep hold of the "current squad". Hopefully that means there is room for Kelly. Be interesting to see what Ellis does, my thoughts are we have to keep him at the club, one way or another.'"
Does Ellis live in/around Hull?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8615 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Does Ellis live in/around Hull?'"
Wetherby area I think
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 25900 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Think it's the right decision to increase the cap, although I would only allow teams with a reserve team to have the extra cap.
The other two rules I don't like, the 2 marquee players seems pointless as no really uses it now and it seems to me it's for Wigan to keep Williams.
I don't like the rule to attack Uonion players as it could really be abused by clubs with cash, in theory they could sign 3 top Union players and spend 1 million over the cap.
|
|
|
|
|