Mate I'm not against developement and if AP was behind this development then I'm pretty sure it would be going through but he isn't and the way the Allams have conducted themselves from day one has been nothing more than amateurish.

Sure this has been shown before [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/mar/29/sport.comment[/url History Repeats itself.

Sounds like pearson is throwing his weight behind it now from his blunderside interview this morning

Not sure how you read it, but to me he's obviously well detached from this part of the Allams plan's, as he was quite surprised by some of the statement's Burnsy put too him. Such as Hull Fc's costing the Allam's money and he wanted to rip up the tennancy agreement and start again. AP seemed genuinely baffled as he say's Hull FC make the SMC good money and as for ripping up a tennancy agreement that's a non starter bececause he's tried before.

He pretty much said that the development is a good thing and he'll get involved to try and make it happen

That's how I heard it but it doesn't suit the Knight in Shining Armour (AP) beliefs of the majority of our posters

Regardless, new start, and it's gonna be interesting if nowt else.

Adam said a while ago that he was keeping well clear of it all!!! What else could he say today he works for Allam ...at present!!!!!............he'll keep his head down and like the rest of us no doubt breathe a sigh of relief!

I just think that the Council have rumbled a half baked unprepared scheme, I would think that when you consider the state of retail for the current traders in west hull and the number of empty shops there are in the City centre the last thing that they will want is more retail and boutiques been added to the scheme, then there is the demand for Squash in that part of West Hull. If a retail/sporting Village is his bright idea where better than Boothfery Road on the western fringes of the City. Costello would have been ideal, but he doesn't want that does he, he wants the Stadium to borrow agains and as he said a while ago to the City Fans he cannot speculate on better players if he does not own it, there's the rub I think!. Any way whatever Adam Pearson said, As I have said before if a well briefed Council portfolio holders states that Hull Fc could be out of there in 15 months you have to sit up and listen! Just my thoughts of course!

Wilf, much as I hate to play devils advocate here, are you saying he's expressing one opinion and meaning another?

Anybody else would get shouted off this board if that was the case.

I dont see why Hull FC fans are so dead set against the development. Adam Pearson has obviously got a good relationship with Allam and would be shrewd enough to get a watertight long term lease in place to use the Stadium.
The only way that i can see it affecting Hull FC is that long term you get to play in a better facility when Allams plans are realised.

you mean apart from it's a hair brained non starter drempt up by a lunatic?

It all depends on the price he was offering IMO. I've never seen an official number. If some of the rumours are true it was always goung to be a complete non-starter. Anything less than £25-30 million and his idea of [igiving[/i a gift is different to mine. That'd just be to make a referendum a political possibility - he'd maybe have to go higher to actually win it.

I don't see how else he will make a significant amount out of Hull FC

I can see why a lot a sceptical. The whole idea doesn't make any sense if take a face value. There is no need for another ice arena or swimming pool. If he was looking to develop a state of the art training facility and a gym etc for the clubs to use and maybe add car parking, hotel and even the casino then maybe but this all looks a bit thrown together.

I really don't think there is anything for FC fans to worry about, the scheme looks so flawed it'll never get signed off. As for the Melton complex I can't see how he has that kind of capital available.

The one big concern is if Wilf's statement is wrong and Pearson was Allams way of getting on the inside at FC.

It has been stated in the press that the stadium and land would have been the City's contribution to the sports village and he would be investing 80 million(of other peoples money).

Try fook all. I 'm not against development of the site but what they're suggesting is just crazy to me.

wishful thinking, small club mentality from the east, who'd have thunk it eh!

Precisely,i'm quite staggered by the number of people who are up in arms with the council over this. Every single time i have heared Allam talk he has come out with something ridiculous,all his arguements seem ill thought out at best. To stand and pose for a pic at welton holding what was supposed to be plans of a possible stadium development in the hope it would put pressure on the coincil could have been thought up by a 10 year old child.
His involvement with Hull City has never sat right with me,when you look at the facts,he has ploughed 1/3 of his puported wealth into a football club which is pretty much at the top of what it's likely to acheive,he'll never get his money back. His only hope was aquiring this land,It's been an expensive gamble for him in my eyes and one he's thankfully lost. I've no doubt he'll soon put the club up for sale citing the council holding him back as the reason and they'll be painted the bad boys. The swimming pool and ice rink story really show him for what he is.Go back to doing what you're good at Mr Allam.

You can try and dismiss the rest of the post and label it as an anti FC post if you like. What it was was a post script comment and in no way did it say that I thought he was. Can you catagorically say its not possible?

I don't mind a debate with opinions, conjecture and all that but it seems healthy debate is dead in your world.

I Agree with your first point but as for realising the Allams long term plans, what plans. They turn up to meetings without any. When they councilors quiz them about their plans they change their minds and I quote, "talk in riddles." (maybe thats the Eygptian in him not sure.)
Never met the bloke but what I've heard I just have no confidence in him. It just stinks of David Lloyd to me.

Good post

I can, categorically state, it will not happen.



I try not to debate with imbeciles with a hidden agenda, they have a tendancy to drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

There is another aspect to bear in mind: Local Councilors are elected officials and as such they have a legal duty to husband their Council's assets in a proper manner. If the council "sold" the KC and adjoining land for the paltry sum mentioned, they could quite conveivably be held legally responsible for 'abuse in public office' charges. The penalties for which include imprisonment and/or seizure of personal assets

Fair enough, and if he has turned up for meetings without concrete plans then he has got what he deserved.
However, all of the evidence i have seen of him so far is that he has followed up his plans and put his money where his mouth is. University, Hullensions, Hull City, Rovers etc.
Maybe im too trusting!

yeah mate, it has already been mentioned but you are quite right.

If true, that's just not realistic.