You would have thought that they'd be up for the game last night after getting turned over by Leigh last week but they just look so clueless. Even their win against Leeds was nothing impressive they're lucky to have even 2 points on the board so far.

I hope the team have a more respectful attitude than some fans on here. To suggest any team are poor shows a lack of understanding of the game.

I sincerely hope the vast majority of fans do not have this attitude otherwise the atmosphere will be flat and if we have not posted 3 try's in the first 15 mins they will get on the players backs.

Spot on mate

What would you say Sts are then?.......they are a team that are lacking in key areas and are in decline from their heyday and are living on past glories,they have a glaring weakness at halfback and that's including Matty Smith.A coach out of his depth Imo and are the lacking funds to bring players in?.If that is a lack of understanding the game then I've learned sod all in 42yrs of watching the game.

They finished level on points with us last season. It was only our better defence that meant we finished third and them fourth.

I'd hardly say they are in decline just because they've not won a trophy for a couple of years. We will be favourites on Friday but it will be a tough game, they are no easybeats.

If we go in to ANY match thinking where gonna win by 30/40 points before kick off then we will come unstuck. Yes am looking for a win on Fri but expect a tough match as I hope the players are.

They had a decent super 8s and caught up with us as we went right off boil in them.Ok maybe I was a bit over the top with 30+ and all teams are hard to beat but we should have too much all over the park for them and id never thought id say that about Sts

I agree

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... 48-hull-fc Kelly talks about his fledgling partnership with Sneyd and their very different attributes in YP today.

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... 48-hull-fc Kelly talks about his fledgling partnership with Sneyd and their very different attributes in YP today.

Warrington beaten 14-24 at Salford.

getting wins on the board early will be more valuable this season at this rate!

saints and wire in the bottom 4 already, early days but the bigger the gap on those clubs the better

....and Widnes draw 14-14 at Cats.

This season I think everybody is going to take points off everybody it's gonna be a topsy turvy year

Middle 8s could be a minefield this year.

My post was not a personal dig at you. However, when many comment of the lack of atmosphere at home games, I do think a factor is when fans expect a win (or a big a win) when in fact if your team are not 100% at the races the bottom placed club can turn them over.

St Helens are not the team they were, but poor is a little too far IMO. Their pack is formidable (Wilkins perhaps being the one who in reality should not be there) and as was evidenced on Friday, even in wet weather they are happy to off Lias at will.

We as a team have been turned over by teams that on paper we should have beaten for as long as I have been going (Fev 83 is still hard to understand) .

I fully accept the defeat but your all acting like you hammered a full strength Giants team. 11 of our starting 17 were on the sidelines.

Take 11 of your starting 17 out and do you think the result would be the same of a 40+ hammering?

all acting? nobody is saying we hammered a full strength hudds team, we did a job on a understrength hudds team, end of,

After 3 rounds only Wigan and cas look to be top of the pile and of the rest there doesn't look a lot between them with most probably being in with a shout of top 8 or bottom 4. Injuries will play a big part IMO. As for the 11 missing for hudds, who are the 11 who wouldn't be in the team if everyone was Fit? It seems to be vogue to count any and every injury whilst lining up excuses

Who are these fans, care to quote any of them.

Plus you are going over the top as Brieley, Brough, your front row, Hinchclffe, Wakeman and Clough would all be in your 17, Smith, Roberts and Ormsby have also played a few games.

Pretty full strength against Salford at home, what was the excuse for that one.

1. Jake Mamo
2. Jermaine McGilvarry
3. Leroy Cudjoe
4. Lee Gaskell
5. Aaron Murphy = ALL our back 5 missing

11. Tom Symonds
12. Dale Ferguson
13. Michael Lawrence = ALL our starting back row missing

17. Ukuama Taai = Our starting prop
31. Adam O Brien

9 players who would 100% be in the team if fit and 10 if O Brien played....

Sam Wood, Gene Ormsby, Mikey Wood, Tyler Dickinson, Darnell McIntosh, Nathan Mason, Daniel Smith would not be in the team id those players were fit full stop.

Personally, I dont think players such as Murphy and Ferguson are a miss but thats still 7 first team regulars


No excuses against Salford we were just crap that day and deserved to lose like you did against Catalans!

My point is you can take nothing from that game you did a job against what will be the most depleted team that anyone will face in SL this season.

as a hull fan, i dont really care how many you had out, or who was out, i still feel we would have beaten you even if you were stronger, mainly due to the disappointment of the catalan game, ateod we came and did a job, as i said to other hull fans around us, it was the extra pre season game we needed but never got for our halves and others who were a bit rusty to blow away any cobwebs

We'd have beat them if all those players were playing. Hudds are e and are of little consequence to those clubs wanting to really challenge.
After a few years of over achievement, last year and this they have a squad more in-keeping with their fan base. Terrible.

Who cares?

We won and got two competition points which is all I'm bothered about. I couldn't care less who you had missing.

exactly, dont recall many giants fans offering us sympathy after our cup defeat when we had majority of our team out in 2012!

Has he actually played for you yet?

If you sign an injured player you can't really moan that he is out due to err injury.