Any proof of this allegation?

No reason not to believe it where I’ve got it from. Missed more pre season sessions than any other player that wasn’t coming off a long term injury.

Ellam liked my comment and insinuated similar about desire so I guess he’s heard similar.

He'll know he's on his way at the end of the season and will be retiring anyway so he'll probably toss it off all season if it's true.

Intrigued who was the other young player besides Martin who had a solid game vs Saints last season?

And why doesnt he start in any fans starting line ups

He may of been injured recently, but baffles me why hes not mentioned.

Blood some youngsters eh we may start seeing some improvement in the long term

He picked up a calf injury just before the Wigan game. Not sure why they are saying its unspecified.

If he doesn't get a new deal he won't be retiring.

No idea, past caring to be honest if/when he does come back it’s not as if he’s going to string any games together.

We've appealed Saos ban but nobody else's.
Probably ban him for 5 games now for having the temerity to question it.

I could name half a dozen lineups and not be particularly happy with any of them. However, I think what I'd like to see is:

Walker
Martin
Sutcliffe
Litten
McIntosh
Hoy
Smith
J Brown
F Brown
Ashworth
Okunbor
Scott
Gardiner

Diakhate
Staveley (As a prop)
Jebson
Balmforth

I don't particularly like Litten at centre, but he didn't do too much wrong against Rovers and I'd rather use Scott in the pack tbh. Also, I know Lane will play, but I've just had enough of him. I'd rather see the youngsters get a shot.

Sorry but that is a shocking team. It could be a cricket score. Think Smiths recruitment has been terrible even with all fit it’s not looking good.

Smith just confirmed that Cam Scott is out for up to 4 weeks now with a calf injury. Also confirmed Carlos won't be playing this week and may even be round 4 when he's back.
To be this many players missing in week 2 of a season must be a new record in Super League. It's ridiculous.

We've lost Cator for upto 10 weeks and Scott for a month, going to have 13 players missing for Friday, Smith is hopeful on Sutcliffe being back. Carlos hopefully the week after.

Cam Scott missing for Friday too

Carlos has become a proper liability. It’s always “minor” then he misses 4 weeks minimum.

Do we need to try get a prop / second rower in on loan for a month or two?

On Carlos Tuimavave, who also missed the Round One fixture, he said: “Carlos won’t be available this week with his calf issue. Without pushing things for him, he’ll be back for Round Three or Round Four.” Smith trying to hint at something there?

Ese
Pele
Sao
Houghton
Tindall
Scott
Cator
Trueman
Fash
Mitch
Carlos
Sutcliffe a maybe

Wainhouse
Armstrong

We have played one game. That’s ridiculous.

It was only last year when people on here were criticising the club for rushing him back. The conspiracy theorists can't have it both ways.

Things are so bad that 36 year old Stanley might need to get his boots on

Can we just forfeit and take the 24-0 or whatever it is, that would be a good result in the grand scheme of things

Can't see many clubs wanting to loan players, certainly not senior players. We might as well play our own kids than another club's.

So no Scott for around 4 weeks and still no Carlos.

Absolutely crazy situation after only the first game of the season

to be missing so many players.

Any chance on Tag and Yeamo dusting their boots off

Not a bad shout, then there will be a pile on in the social media comments and our IMG score will go up

I'm already fearing the worst for the London game - and the week after that it's Catalans away.

Think some of the comments regarding Carlos are made without knowledge of what’s going on with him. Bit like Taylor last season. Injuries like muscle tears if that’s what he is suffering from have to be 100% contrary to what people are saying. I’m sure he would play if he could