To be fair you’d expect Satae to have had a big game against the side Leeds put out today but he was pretty poor, actually thought Brown had a good game and made some metres.

Lane just another game were he’s failed to perform this season, Lovodua another who was just a body out there as offered sod all going forward or in defence but they weren’t had only ones. The number of missed tackles was pathetic along our end of sets, don’t think we know how to sustain pressure at all. Line speed again has gone awol and no intensity.

May as well use the remain games to give the young players game time as certainly won’t don’t any worse than some of those on the pitch today.

Agree thought.

Dywer though, been absolutely awful last two games, came on for 12 minutes didn't he today, what's the point, have Balmforth on the bench, give him the 12 minutes.
.Just doesn't make sense.

Lane, Shaul, Lovodua, got to be better playing the some of the kids.

Smith isn't my concern. It's his first year. First year to see what needs doing. Second year to make improvements. Third year to reach potential. He still has a couple of years credit with me.

You can keep calling Radford all you like but he put trophies in the cabinet and made us one of the top teams in the land. If Smith can match his success then I'll be happy.

No relegation in the traditional sense next year or moving forwards. As long as you stay in the MKM, your top flight status is pretty much secure, irrespective of results on the pitch. Unless and until they change the system again.

There’s still a part of me that expects a tah-dah reveal in among your remaining new signing announcements. But it feels increasingly likely to me that Hull are taking the opportunity afforded by the existential threat of relegation being removed to adopt a financially prudent approach. Paying off some of the debt from the COVID pandemic etc.

If they are going to be going with ‘patience’, they need to be really careful with the comms around that. Rovers were much too open about it in 2012 and again in 2016. But, equally, it looks ridiculous to say the opposite. That may explain Pearson’s low profile and Smith’s studious ambiguity in interviews.

Think he will need two more years.

Yes Radforrd will be forever remembered for Wembley but my god,we had some fearsome bartering sunder him…I’d take Smiths success and teams style over Radfords

For me yes Radford brought 2 cup wins but that just papers over the damage done during his tenure.

Maybe the club didn’t have the ambition Radford had? Maybe the club doesn't have the pulling power to bring in the best players. Maybe that's down to location, maybe not. But he had to keep on the likes of Ellis and Mini well past their prime, he even had to pull Ellis back out of retirement because he didn’t have the best tools provided for him to work with.

He also had to conted with a nutcase in Liam Watts who couldn't controll his discipline after many chances and then lost his star man in Albert Kelly to a terrible concussion injury.

Garbage! too many lazy players with a CBA attitude! Weak mentally and physically.

Yep he played well. For me he offers more than Fash and should be ahead of him for selection next season.

Another game towards a load of e leaving. Can't wait

That was disappointing to say the least I expected better after last week, you know take a knock and come back fighting but welcome to our end of season Mr Smith. The plan is this; once avoiding relegation is ensured every bloody year we drop off just look at the stats over the last few seasons, it's spooky.

It certainly not Tony's fault this year and I'm still 100% behind him for he inherited the culture, he's changed it in some cases but none the less it is still there inherent in the very DNA of many at Hull FC. We do however expect better next season but its hard to accept we will get it. as the best players we have this year are leaving the club and Swift apart once they got themselves sorted they have gone backwards. When a club prides itself on everyone knowing the play book and everyone knowing the plan you simply can't blame injuries etc for disrupting the team. That was a poor Leeds team and neither club deserve to be in the top six but they were far better than us on the day.

I look forward to next years squad with interest.

The amount of times he got his arm free for an offload and no one was near him was unreal

Take it from me mate you really shouldn't have wished that.

Sounded like they missed my presence from the sidelines.

I'm with the earlier poster in this thread. The cold Friday nights are best, well wrapped up with a cup of hot bovril.

Harsh to criticise lane today as he played about 70 mins out of position. Got an assist with the most telegraphed pass ever.

Real poor from pack today, hopefully Ashworth, Ese’Ese, Pele & Okunbor make a massive difference.

For me, today should be last game shaul, joey and Dwyer play for the club. All leaving and not exactly pulling up trees.

Thought brown really had a go today and was probably the most effective forward. Taylor made too many unforced errors which got us on the back foot.

Fans seem to love Harvey Barron but to me that’s because he’s from hull and tries hard. He’s not shown anything to suggest he’s a SL winger. If Mcintosh is out next week Lewis Martin has to get his shot.

Only positive was we looked much better at moving the ball with tex on pitch

Really poor again. You can tell from the first five or ten minutes whether we are in for a good day or not and today you could definitely see from the start it was going to be another dismal display.

Thank God Leeds weren't that good and had half a team missing.

When the pressure is on we return to type.

Very disappointed today, it was the same dejavu performance of every August/September for the last 5 years.

We looked devoid of effort and ideas, proof of it was needed that several players aren't of the right standard.

Also baffled with keeping Dwyer on the bench until 13mins to go, may as well give a young kid a run out than have him sat there.

I still have faith in Smith as he's been lumbered with a poor squad. Evans and Lovodua as quota players really??

But if we keep playing as badly as today then all it does is increase the pressure to get off to a good start next year. A win or two before the end of the season tops up the goodwill a bit.

Its also worrying that Swift was Mom again and he's leaving, you know things are bad when a winger is getting mom for driving the ball up and trying hard

I simply cannot understand why Balmforth is not getting game time.

He'll benefit from the experience going in to next season.

To be fair. Its only a fan vote

Wondering if there is a salary cap or loan clause reason why he cant play, as keeping him at doomed to relegation Newcastle wont be progressing him much. Either that or Smith simply doesnt rate him.

Yes and that means wingers and halves will always stand out more as fans often vote for whos scored etc. But even if it was a panel vote he'd still have been a contender for MoM today, he was one of a few who looked like they had a clue.