When Griffin says the team is tight as a crabs ass at 40 fathoms then you know
something like this could happen

This kind of performance will happen again and again until he gets his own team - Tony smith cant work miracles with players that have spent years beeing poorly coached and poorly motivated.

Fight backs on. Mightve left it a bit late though

The tackling sounds non existent and don’t think they got on the plane let alone got off it. Sao & Savelio not too unsurprisingly sound very rusty but very little from anyone else at all Jack Brown sounds like the only bright spot of an awful performance.

At least we are still playing and have t chucked the towel in like previous seasons, think I’ll put it down to just a bad day at the office. On a positive note at least it’s a grounder for them all and we will get more from this loss moving forward.

A reminder that there is a hell of a lot of work to do for Smith over the next couple of seasons.

So our unbalanced questionable 17 for the first two games bagged 4 points and our much better balanced team for tonight has got mullered.

Reality check. Hopefully no injuries. Need Trueman Tuime back. Hope Smith is taking note of just who's not up to it.

Good job we've been working on our defence the last 2 weeks or that could have been embarrassing....

Hoy came off injured by the sounds of it

Thats the reason Chris players like Sao and Savelio should have played in the reserves this weekend.
The same goes for Tuimavave and Trueman when fit.
We know Smith has a huge job to do and a clearout at the end of the season is neccessary.
We cant compete playing only with one halfback,two poor second rows,two average Joes in the centre,a fumble king with no real pace on the wing and an overseas front row who does less minutes on the field than an egg timer.
The disappointment for me tonight apart from the result was how easily we were outmuscled and showed no aggression at all in the tackle

To be fair last season it definitely would have been.

Size of the packs was the main difference today, we couldn't get in the game with Catalans pack dominating us from kick off, our defence around the ruck was poor, Dwyer has some work to do in that area.

Teams target Dwyer for sure. We need some size in the SR too

We certainly don’t the same level in the SR as we did with Mini & Sika. Lane really has been disappointing and just doesn’t seem to have kicked on and Savelio as good as he is just doesn’t string enough games together. Wouldn’t be surprised to see major changes in that dept for next season.

Think Brown showed he should be in the 17 ahead of Evans too who for me just isn’t making enough of an impact for a quota forward.
Just got totally outmuscled and dominated tonight

2016...minichello, Ellis, manu,....2023 lane, Griffin, fash

That's depressing

Couldn’t be much different could it. What we wouldnt give to see something like Mini, Sika & Ellis now.

Could be Rovers fans though

Indeed. Front row weaker as well IMO, Taylor and Watts at their best were brilliant.

Every cloud and all that

Could be even worse and be St’s fans. St’s certainly won’t be sending Kendall any Christmas cards this year.

Congrats to Leeds on becoming the new world champs

Very un Saints like. Completely lost the plot.

That shoulder charge call was a stinker though

Fair play to Leeds though in the end deserved to nick it, thought Walters was very lucky and can’t believe Kendall didn’t see it as a shoulder charge. Leeds seemed to be better when Leeming went off injured. Myler turning in to a bit of an actor though Hurrell deservedly seeing the red card.

Kendall is e but not quite as bad as that Smith in the box tonight who reffed last nights game.
Useless