It's a gamble on both parts though, what if he has a great finish to the season and demands more money or another club come in for him or what if he gets a career threatening injury and Hull pull out of the deal.

Motu & lugs should listen to knockybumps before recruiting save us looking stupid when these signings fail to deliver, we maybe should have kept crooks & sacked lugs!

Hmm, this has certainly changed my mind about this situation. I was under the impression this was agreed by hudds but it's seems not. A nasty way to go about things by the hull board. You've either signed him without agreement with our club and so will have to pay a fee- or you haven't actually signed him in which case the timing of the announcement this week With the Huddersfield club in mourning following the death of a young player is a pretty low blow. If you haven't yet signed him then there was absolutely no need to announce it this weekend- the day funeral announcements were made. Seems almost calculated. Not least Connor agreeing to this announcement himself who at 21 will have played alongside many of the players who are completely devastated by the loss of a teammate. If that's the size of his ego then I've changed my mind and I'm glad he's going.

Players move on all the time, it is so sad about Ronin Costello we had a minutes applause before our game with oulton yesterday, don't come on here trying the guilt trip, hudds players don't seem to bothered about Baloo getting the boot, your club badly timed that eh?

Yet your club choose to sack your coach in the same week, it's awful what happened to the young lad, but you can't stop everything in the game, I can't believe you are using the death of a young kid to suggest that Jake or the club have done anything wrong. Using words like calculated is really poor and I think it shows your true character. How long do you leave making any announcement about any Huddesfield player? But is it ok for your club to sack a coach that will have been involved in his development.

Using the death of a young player to criticise Hull or Jake Connor is very poor.

And whats the problem with that.
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No it's not- and I said that at the time and since. One poor decision doesn't justify another.

Honestly don't see what Hull and Connor have done wrong, you are making a bit drama out of nothing and showing a real bitter side.

Dave as we both know a lot of ambitious players leave for better sides.

A small fee is payable because of his age. As a club trained player, there is a fee for the previous "development" done by the club. He is a free agent so no transfer fee is payable - but the development fee will be. That's £115 per week of training plus £5k if we pay him more than £25k per annum. So if he signed at 17 on pro terms, that's 5 years development so around £35k fee - that's pre defined providing he was offered a contract by Huddersfield that was as good or better than his previous deal.

If he turns 22 before his contract expires (or before 1st December) - then there is no development fee required or if he signs after 1st December the fee isn't payable.

He would also be classed as a free agent, so no transfer fee can be demanded.

I suspect that he may have signed a pre-contract agreement that fairly tight. McRae used that approach to sign Swain many moons ago.

thanks for that sidestep

An honest appraisal of the Jake Connor affair is I believe he has probably approached you and you have done a smart piece of business.

However he will be no more loyal to you than us so I suspect the outcome will be down to your management of him and whether he becomes a regular or not.

As a player he still has great potential but needs a settled place in a side to move forward.

Upside is he has a good eye for the line, is very strong has a bit of mongrel about him and potential to develop.

Downside is he hasn't got genuine blazing pace, gives away silly penalties and misses tackles he should make.

Overall he's a good investment for you if you can create the right environment to improve him.

Sorry, have we resolved the casting off of the pedigree-less Connor yet? Might have missed it.

Conspicuous by his absence is old Bumpy. He didn't respond to my post or to the quote from Thewlis (the Hudds MD) saying how they tried to keep Connor.

Typical of him unfortunately. Writes a load of negative nonsense; attracts the challenge his nonsense deserves; b!tches & moans about the replies he gets; gets put right by other posters; does a disappearing act. The sad thing is, I think he has a point worthy of discussion re our youth coming through. He just puts it across in a terribly negative way that people don't want to engage.

More likely the case that his agent has has been in touch with the vast majority of clubs to make awareness of his availability.

Loyalty is a lost concept. Its a nice idea but the reality is RL is a money earning career where players are commodities and they often go for the most lucrative place of work, certainly in the middle parts of their careers.

Loyalty not really an issue providing you do not breach contract. Its if he is any good that matters.

We offered him very good terms- you offered a little more. Both amounts a lot of money for a 21 year old utility player. Hull are attempting to sidestep the development fee by claiming theyve not signed him but have agreed a deal-i would imagine the RFL will intervene and a compromise will be made.

Our clubs haven't had many dealings over the last few years, there was the potential naughton deal that FC backed out of earlier in the year but I can't think of many others. I wonder if there is still animosity between Pearson and Davy over Huddersfield town.

That's a better post without the rubbish.

I don't blame for trying not to pay, most rugby teams don't have much money, so have to do what they can to get the best deal, even if it is a bit unethical. Hudds are past masters at getting players when teams are on the down, done it plenty of times to Wakey over the last few years.

Oh we've had it done to us plenty of times especially in the bad old days. Hetherington proper screwed us over with Keith senior. Bradford tried it with both Eorl and Paul Reilly but both decided loyalty was worth more than a few extra k.
Still don't think either club have done themselves any favours over the last week with how they've conducted themselves.
It will be interesting to see where Connor features. 50k is the rumoured amount you are paying him next year which suggests he's going to be playing regularly.

And of course your club would never dream of doing it to anybody else would they, it's a pity some of our players didn't show the same loyalty every time Shudds kept calling offering more money.

Not saying your wrong with that figure, but unless you have got that from Connor, his agent or Hull FC I'd take any salary related "rumour" with a large pinch of salt.

I don't recall is ever being underhand with wakey- in fact you've done quite well on us.
I dont recall us ever announcing a signing of one of your contracted players without your prior knowledge in this way- you often got something out of a deal as a club which ateotd Wakey didn't have to agree to.
For example for brough you got kirmond, korkidas back and a whole heap of cash.
for Daniel smith you got mullaley for the rest of the season.
For Ferguson you got cash.
for Murphy we paid a fee and you got kirmond and Raleigh in return. - you could argue you got the better deal there.
I can only think there's grix we didn't pay you for- but since hed been at a million different clubs prior to that I can't imagine it was that big a deal.
So not really anything to do with loyalty seeing as Wakefield agreed to do business and got something back in return.

The real issue here is why connor doesn't want to stay where he is. hudds and their fans need to take a look at themselves before criticising our club

It's simple- Money talks - we have offered him more than the club has ever offered any other kid his age - you have offered him more.

All sounds OK. www.hullfc.com/article/45722/clu ... ake-connor

All sounds OK. www.hullfc.com/article/45722/clu ... ake-connor