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| Some Hull fans just have it in for Westerman despite the stats that show his importance to the club.
Presumably they are lining him up to me the scapegoat in residence once Yeaman is no longer a first choice.
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| Ive never used yeaman as a scapegoat, and I never will westerman. Why cant you accept that some fans dont rate him.
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| Some players divide opinion. Westerman is one of those. He's a good player IMO, and as Clarkey said on the Saints game commentary will benefit from playing in a pack that's been upgraded with Pritchard and Manu next season. Abdull has a touch of Cooke about him, but is still very young and needs a massive off season, so really hoping he remains injury-free in the remaining 5 games.
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| Yeaman isn't a scapegoat, he just hasn't being good enough consistantly enough for far too long, to retain him again for next year is ridiculous IMO.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Yeaman isn't a scapegoat, he just hasn't being good enough consistantly enough for far too long, to retain him again for next year is ridiculous IMO.'"
Tend to agree, I don't really see the point in retaining Yeaman given he's supposedly covering the back row where we have our best quality and depth.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Ive never used yeaman as a scapegoat'"
I never said you did. But some do and many have it in for him like when his ex said he'd been out drinking before a game (turned out he'd been told he wasn't going to be playing). Plenty of Hull fans we're slating him saying he was bad news.
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and I never will westerman. Why cant you accept that some fans dont rate him.'"
Why can't you accept that some do?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I never said you did. But some do and many have it in for him like when his ex said he'd been out drinking before a game (turned out he'd been told he wasn't going to be playing). Plenty of Hull fans we're slating him saying he was bad news.
Why can't you accept that some do?'"
I completely do, I just dont agree
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"Yes of course I've seen his defence, and I agree it's not as good as JW, but I'd also suggest currently JA looks like he would bring more attacking threat than JW.
Overall, all things considered I think JW is marginally better right now, based on experience, but nothing a run of games wouldn't change for JA.
My original point is whether or not JW is worth keeping assuming a big fee could be had, when JA could come in and quickly become a solid replacement.'"
All this based on a few good performances in a completely different position?
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Ive never used yeaman as a scapegoat, and I never will westerman. Why cant you accept that some fans dont rate him.'"
Each to their own opinion, that's fair enough. Is part of your opinion because Hull paid a fee for Westerman?
For me, Westerman is more than just a solid player and is never one to shirk responsibility. That said, it would be good to see the flashes of creative brilliance he is capable of which only come out once in a while.
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| Every fan at a club will rate players others fans don't.I have said on here I aren't a massive Westerman fan but wouldn't slag him off or Yeaman as they pull a shirt on and put there bodies on the line for 80 mins in a game none of us would last a minute in.I also don't rate a couple of other players at the club but each to their own.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Every fan at a club will rate players others fans don't.I have said on here I aren't a massive Westerman fan but wouldn't slag him off or Yeaman as they pull a shirt on and put there bodies on the line for 80 mins in a game none of us would last a minute in.I also don't rate a couple of other players at the club but each to their own.'"
I have had two criticisms of Yeaman whilst on the pitch. For a Centre with 14-15 seasons first team experience, he still finds it difficult to pass to his winger. This other is the frequency over which he has jumped out of the defensive line but them misses his man leaving his winger exposed.
I'll never question his effort or commitment. ATEOTD, its not his fault he gets picked.
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| He reminds me of Jason Smith in how he plays, he looks like Gareth Carvell, though, and frankly seems a bit of a pudding. If he doesn't shed some timber quicker players than Kevin Sinfield will expose his lack of athleticism.
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| defo needs to up his fitness, but imo a star in the making
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| Quote ="hull2524"defo needs to up his fitness, but imo a star in the making'"
Needs the mother of all pre seasons. Could be very good.
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| agree and hopefully will do, the kid has talent though and lots of it
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| Needs to accept a bolloxing as well and not lose his head for 5 mins and look to carry it on.
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| kids still learning, but true signs of being a class act
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Needs the mother of all pre seasons. Could be very good.'"
4 months is ample time to change, he doesn't need to break into some unachieveable regime just a controlled one where what he eats, when he eats, how much he trains at what time (of day) & intensity give him the best chance to start 2016 changed but not burnt out from over training..
If you go back and read about how Ewan Dowes was training at the clinic in London, the importance of getting sleep, eating times and a training schedule unlike that found in RL impact on the end result hugely.
Quite a few of the players would benefit from it tbh.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"4 months is ample time to change, he doesn't need to break into some unachieveable regime just a controlled one where what he eats, when he eats, how much he trains at what time (of day) & intensity give him the best chance to start 2016 changed but not burnt out from over training..
If you go back and read about how Ewan Dowes was training at the clinic in London, the importance of getting sleep, eating times and a training schedule unlike that found in RL impact on the end result hugely.
Quite a few of the players would benefit from it tbh.'"
Didn't Agar put a stop to it and recall him early from this regime?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Didn't Agar put a stop to it and recall him early from this regime?'"
Yip,certainly did....Got told that Abdull has been told to lose weight.
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| Plenty of skills but he needs to get a grip on his weight or he'll never make it. Looked like he was running in treacle when sinfield ran around him
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