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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"All tickets don't have to be sold through the SMC ticket office. We send batches to away clubs all the time.
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unreserved ones maybe, not reserved
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| Another thing on the corporate things, Rovers sponsors will see how much better they are and that could be a winner for FC long term
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| Can't wait for the reaction when they pay £19 in the south and we pay £23 in the north stand!
Can I start the "KC is a rip off for away fans" thread?
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| What an absolute joke. Hudge is one pathetic man.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"All tickets don't have to be sold through the SMC ticket office. We send batches to away clubs all the time. Rovers just get the full East and South stand as a batch to sell. Whatever they don't sell they lose out on. We can then point and laugh when they can't sell them out.'"
But Rovers will be the home side, so their tickets will be sold from the SMC office, same as our home match tickets are.
Only small batches are usually sent to away clubs. Can't see the Hull FC shops being able to manage the sale of 10000-odd tickets - there's a security issue, here. The tickets will be sold through the ticket office, thereby making it a 'free for all' for those wanting to sit anywhere, the only exception being if there's a stand solely allocated to Rovers passholders.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Can't wait for the reaction when they pay £19 in the south and we pay £23 in the north stand!
Can I start the "KC is a rip off for away fans" thread?'"
And I'm not paying even more for the horrid lager in the North Stand!
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| Quote ="Hutchie"unreserved ones maybe, not reserved'"
Won't matter, there'll be no reserved area if they get it. They don't reserve in their East stand. Would just all be sold unreserved and get there early for best seat.
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| If they take the east, south and west I would expect no more than 12000 to be there. There is no way that all of their 6-7000 season ticket holders will go, plus the additional 8000 HKR fans that are needed to make it a normal KC derby crowd.
They haven't got the fanbase, it's as simple as that. This needs to be a 50/50 split on tickets. I would go south/east to us, north plus whatever they need in the west to them. We'll have whatevers left over in the west.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"But Rovers will be the home side, so their tickets will be sold from the SMC office, same as our home match tickets are.
Only small batches are usually sent to away clubs. Can't see the Hull FC shops being able to manage the sale of 10000-odd tickets - there's a security issue, here. The tickets will be sold through the ticket office, thereby making it a 'free for all' for those wanting to sit anywhere, the only exception being if there's a stand solely allocated to Rovers passholders.'"
Why do they have to sell them from the ticket office? I'm sure a senior Rovers official could pick them up. It really doesn't have to be as difficult as you seem to would like it.
I assume you mean Hull KR when you say they can't sell 10,000 tickets? But its laughable either way, you make out they've never sold that many before.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Won't matter, there'll be no reserved area if they get it. They don't reserve in their East stand. Would just all be sold unreserved and get there early for best seat.'"
Depends on what the police and elf n safety say , they could inisist on it being fully reserved due to expected crowd size
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"If they take the east, south and west I would expect no more than 12000 to be there. There is no way that all of their 6-7000 season ticket holders will go, plus the additional 8000 HKR fans that are needed to make it a normal KC derby crowd.
They haven't got the fanbase, it's as simple as that. This needs to be a 50/50 split on tickets. I would go south/east to us, north plus whatever they need in the west to them. We'll have whatevers left over in the west.'"
So what you're saying is of the 6-7k passholders none of them attend the away derby? Or else why would there be an 'additional' 8k?
They would be the home team, why shouldn't they have the home seats?
Some FC fans need to lighten up.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Depends on what the police and elf n safety say , they could inisist on it being fully reserved due to expected crowd size'"
Still don't see a problem, just print seat numbers on the tickets then. I don't mean for them to sell on the gate.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Why do they have to sell them from the ticket office? I'm sure a senior Rovers official could pick them up. It really doesn't have to be as difficult as you seem to would like it.
I assume you mean Hull KR when you say they can't sell 10,000 tickets? But its laughable either way, you make out they've never sold that many before.'"
Steady on - I'm not inferring anything like that.
I'm expecting[i us[/i to sell around 10000 tickets. If, as you say, they give those tickets to the Hull shops to sell, the logistics would be a nightmare, the cash issue alone being one of them. Pointless, when there's a secure ticket office with glass barriers 20 yards away which will monitor the sales and administer the takings.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So what you're saying is of the 6-7k passholders none of them attend the away derby? Or else why would there be an 'additional' 8k?
They would be the home team, why shouldn't they have the home seats?
Some FC fans need to lighten up.
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What I'm saying is this, they have 7k season ticket holders max. Even if all of them went (which I don't think they will), they would still need another 8k to make 15k. I'm pretty sure we would sell 4k in the north stand, plus another 2k or so so in the upper west.
Do you really think HKR could sell 15k for a 'home' derby at the KC?
No need to lighten up, just being realistic.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Steady on - I'm not inferring anything like that.
I'm expecting[i us[/i to sell around 10000 tickets. If, as you say, they give those tickets to the Hull shops to sell, the logistics would be a nightmare, the cash issue alone being one of them. Pointless, when there's a secure ticket office with glass barriers 20 yards away which will monitor the sales and administer the takings.'"
Have we got our wires crossed somewhere? Why would FC fans be buying from the FC shops? East and South are sent to NCP ticket office for Rovers to sell. North and West are sold from the ticket office as normal with priority purchase to our pass holders first and the rest going on general sale.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Have we got our wires crossed somewhere? Why would FC fans be buying from the FC shops? East and South are sent to NCP ticket office for Rovers to sell. North and West are sold from the ticket office as normal with priority purchase to our pass holders first and the rest going on general sale.'"
You have to bear in mind that WIH is busy inventing imaginary difficulties and complications in order to justify demands for FC fans to be given the East and South stands. Even though it's quite possible that we'll get those stands anyway.
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| As a passholder sitting in the east stand it would make a change watching us in a different stand. Havent seen this mentioned in the thread yet but what is our record at craven park compared to the kc? Would be interested to know.
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| Quote ="Maxi Mc"As a passholder sitting in the east stand it would make a change watching us in a different stand. Havent seen this mentioned in the thread yet but what is our record at craven park compared to the kc? Would be interested to know.'"
I agree it would make an interesting change.
I think the most sensible option is to give Rovers the East and the South and the West Corporate Seats, and the KC/Hull sell the rest.
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| It'll be fun when Hutchie and a few thousand KR supporters turn up with a photocopied barcode of an on-line ticket and demand entry
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| Quote ="Chris28"Can't see what the issue is.
Treat it as a Rovers home game, they get to use the corporate stuff (how many away fans use them at the KC when FC are at home?) Sell tickets to FC fans for North as away fans (and West Upper) and let Rovers have the rest (season pass holders show their pass and get in "free"icon_wink.gif.
As long as the club pays the SMC the going rate for use of the facilities, no problem.
Quite how this benefits Rovers financially I can't see but there you go.'"
That's how I see it, mate.
I don't have a problem sitting in the North Stand. Unfortunately not all fans will agree and I can see plenty of complaints.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"That's how I see it, mate.
I don't have a problem sitting in the North Stand. Unfortunately not all fans will agree and I can see plenty of complaints.'"
I dont have a problem with sitting in another stand, but if you give HKR almost 3 sides the ground will be half empty.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Have we got our wires crossed somewhere? Why would FC fans be buying from the FC shops? East and South are sent to NCP ticket office for Rovers to sell. North and West are sold from the ticket office as normal with priority purchase to our pass holders first and the rest going on general sale.'"
Think we have. I thought you meant all tickets would be given to the respective club shops for sale.
Still think it would be asking a lot for the Rovers shops to handle - more than a usual "away" allocation.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"I dont have a problem with sitting in another stand, but if you give HKR almost 3 sides the ground will be half empty.'"
Well I don't see the attendance being more than 15,000 anyway.
Rovers have been pulling in around 7,000 at CP and there are bound to be plenty that will be against their club playing a home game in West Hull.
You won't get 13,000 Hull FC fans paying on the day, the Cup and playoffs in recent years prove that supporters of all clubs are less likely to chose to do that these days.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You have to bear in mind that WIH is busy inventing imaginary difficulties and complications in order to justify demands for FC fans to be given the East and South stands. Even though it's quite possible that we'll get those stands anyway.'"
Not at all! Point out where I've made any such "demands". I've merely said it would be sensible - not least from a financial aspect (which is, after all, the whole reason for the escapade).
What I am cynical about is whether Hudge will take the sensible option or the one which would give most satisfaction to his "small minded" mentality, for which he does have some considerable previous.
As for me - as I pointed out some three hours ago on the Rovers board - I'll be there wherever I'm sat, I attend all away matches. Bit sad not to go in the Golf stand again, though.
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| Any animosity could easily be avoided by pearson being transparent about any financial benefits to Hull and by hudgel being sensible and offering Hull fans the east and south stands. Anything else will result in the gate being significantly down on what it might otherwise be.
Also, he can't charge different prices for different parts of the ground for home and away fans as it will just end up with HUll fans buying tickets in the rovers stands.
If he has even half a brain he'll give Hull the south and east stands and charge £20 for east/west and £15 for north/south. Would get 20k if he did IMO
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