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| Quote ="djcXIII"Could be good that he got a red as 'on report' may result in the panel looking at things in a different manner ie. he hasn't been punished so we will have to do it, as opposed to, he was sent off and that is sufficient punishment.'"
Thats a very good point. Last time Tansey got 2 matches for a dangerous tackle that wasnt punished at the time. The committee may see Hull been down to 12 men as part of Tanseys punishment already served hopefully only handing out a further 1 game ban.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Thats a very good point. Last time Tansey got 2 matches for a dangerous tackle that wasnt punished at the time. The committee may see Hull been down to 12 men as part of Tanseys punishment already served hopefully only handing out a further 1 game ban.'"
Yes he won't get banned because he was off the field for 5 minutes
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes he won't get banned because he was off the field for 5 minutes
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It doesnt matter if it was 5 minutes or 75.
At the time Hull were down to 12 men with the scores level. It gave Crusaders a distinct advantage...
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| Quote ="knocker norton"It doesnt matter if it was 5 minutes or 75.
At the time Hull were down to 12 men with the scores level. It gave Crusaders a distinct advantage...'"
Of course it matters
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Of course it matters'"
So basically a player getting sent off late in a game is not punishment?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"So basically a player getting sent off late in a game is not punishment?'"
He's not even been off the field the amount of time he'd get for a lesser offence that warranted a sin bin
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| It depends on what they charge him with if its the same as this
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Given its a year since he got two match suspension for almost the same thing, I would expect he could even get three or more.
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| Quote ="Ian P"It depends on what they charge him with if its the same as this
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=1414[/url
Given its a year since he got two match suspension for almost the same thing, I would expect he could even get three or more.'"
Thats quality that Agar blames Craig Hall for it
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He's not even been off the field the amount of time he'd get for a lesser offence that warranted a sin bin'"
Didnt Jake Webster get sent off in the last 5 mins or so at Bradford was found guilty and got sending off sufficient?????
Tansey's previous is likely to be his biggest problem.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Didnt Jake Webster get sent off in the last 5 mins or so at Bradford was found guilty and got sending off sufficient?????
Tansey's previous is likely to be his biggest problem.'"
Indeed he did, because of his good record and the fact he really did nothing wrong
It's far more likely you'll see a ban for a red card in the 75th minute rather than one after say 5 minutes, especially for a spear tackle
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Theres no bias about it, it was a shocking tackle and he was rightly red carded. You can come up with however many excuses you want trying to justify his attempt to seriously injure someone, you are embarrasing yourself through your bias.
The Hull fans who actually understand the game are even admitting it was a sending off.'"
So your actually claiming he attempted to seriously injure the player? Then have the nerve to claim someone is embarrasing themselves through bias? Brilliant.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Indeed he did, because of his good record and the fact he really did nothing wrong
It's far more likely you'll see a ban for a red card in the 75th minute rather than one after say 5 minutes, especially for a spear tackle'"
Either way he was found guilty!
I agree there will be more emphasis on a player missing a large chunk of a game going towards a ban but I think with the Webster case they have shown previous at the disciplinary commitee - technically Websters punishment was less then a sin binning for a 'guilty' charge.
That said Tansey's record will be his biggest downfall but he could easily have cost his team the game last night which I beleive may be taken into consideration.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So your actually claiming he attempted to seriously injure the player? Then have the nerve to claim someone is embarrasing themselves through bias? Brilliant.'"
Yes, i'd imagine picking someone up and dropping them on their head is an attempt to injure someone.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Either way he was found guilty!
I agree there will be more emphasis on a player missing a large chunk of a game going towards a ban but I think with the Webster case they have shown previous at the disciplinary commitee - technically Websters punishment was less then a sin binning for a 'guilty' charge.
That said Tansey's record will be his biggest downfall but he could easily have cost his team the game last night which I beleive may be taken into consideration.'"
Maybe but then again SOS is the easy way out for the disciplinary rather than find a player not guilty which would then mean they admit the ref got it wrong.
And with Brian Mcdermott having a say about this when Sykes got banned for a similar incident not long ago I think that will work against you.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes, i'd imagine picking someone up and dropping them on their head is an attempt to injure someone.'"
So he couldn't have been attempting to tackle the player and just got it wrong? Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby? I'm sure your mummy didn't mean it though.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Maybe but then again SOS is the easy way out for the disciplinary rather than find a player not guilty which would then mean they admit the ref got it wrong.
And with Brian Mcdermott having a say about this when Sykes got banned for a similar incident not long ago I think that will work against you.'"
You are now assuming something which is incorrect. Morgan himself said Webster had made more tackles then usual in this particular game and was probably 'tired' when he wrapped his considerable arm around the Bulls players head.
The report clearly states that he made an illegal challenge.
To suggest Tansey deliberately intended to injure the Crusaders player in a premeditated illegal challenge is just wrong. Maybe the colour of his jersey is clouding your judgement?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes, i'd imagine picking someone up and dropping them on their head is an attempt to injure someone.'"
Quite true,but as Tansey ran at the player and upended him,I would argue it was not a deliberate spear tackle.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Quite true,but as Tansey ran at the player and upended him,I would argue it was not a deliberate spear tackle.'"
Thats ok then, He won't get banned then much like you don't for an accidental high tackle.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Ahh. You're one of [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=466707them[/url, then.
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Don't you worry, I didn't pay a penny for my ticket.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Don't you worry, I didn't pay a penny for my ticket.
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You wouldnt admit to it even if you did!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"You are now assuming something which is incorrect. Morgan himself said Webster had made more tackles then usual in this particular game and was probably 'tired' when he wrapped his considerable arm around the Bulls players head.
The report clearly states that he made an illegal challenge.
To suggest Tansey deliberately intended to injure the Crusaders player in a premeditated illegal challenge is just wrong. Maybe the colour of his jersey is clouding your judgement?'"
Not at all, he's a good attacking player is Jordan. I just don't like to see people dumped on their heads in such a way. If it was accidental then so be it but I would argue it's difficult to accidently drop someone on their head and I hate to see any lifting tackles take place.
Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"
Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??'"
Probably with the intention of dominating the tackle and winning his defence a few more seconds.
It was a tackle that went badly wrong for him I dont beleive for one second he planned to drop the Crusaders player on his head and his immediate remorse and apology probably backs that up.
Illegal = yes
Deliberate = no
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| Quote ="knocker norton"You wouldnt admit to it even if you did!
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Probably not, no tbh. But on this occasion, having to sit 10 yards from Kath was payment enough for me!
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Probably not, no tbh. But on this occasional, having to sit 10 yards from Kath was payment enough for me!'"
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website [url=http://www.crusadersrfl.com/report.php?id=3217388sent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofske[/url'" How was it a late tackle he still had the ball
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