not me who started it though just intrigued sorry

Bare with me on this, but do you think Hull's reputation for playing local lads could be part of the problem? I must admit, I'm jealous by the amount of Hull lads in your squad, but I'm not jealous of who the players actually are.

I think Hull FC should be applauded for championing local talent, but an average local player is still just an average player. They said franchising would allow clubs to play more local players but judging by what a lot of your are saying on here, fans aren't willing to see a slip in performances for the sake of playing local talent (which is understandable) and especially if it's causing Hull FC to lose grip on being one of the UK's top clubs.

most of the same players coulden't be bothered in 2007 when we had Catalan in the quarter finals at home either, and Wigan would have been beatable in the semi. Yet they gave another half hearted display that day.

It's actually a fair point and something I have thought for a while. The number of Hull-born players currently representing GB/England sort of backs this up.

If we don't exceed their intensity we will lose. If we do we have enough players to take advantage and win. It's that simple.

I totally disagree. If the Australians and non Hull players in the squad were totally outplaying them then ok, but the fact of the matter (Manu aside) is that they're not!

I think the general point you are making has some merit. Whether Hull ultimately gain as a result of tightening restrictions on non home grown talent remains to be seen. But in terms of pure player quality you may have a point.

If you say so

Nobody with any sense is using Thorman as a scapegoat or really slagging him off, all people are saying is what most people thought all along that Thorman is a very very average 7, he is doing a job for us in the short term as there was really nobody else in our price range available. He would make decent utility player in my opinion but hes not top 6 material, as a halfback anyway.

Agreed, well, until the utility player bit, I'm a bit sick and tired of them.

Lets face it, Horne isn't a top 6 half back either, we're a team of averages, the only "word class" thing at FC is the fans, and the spin from the board.

Hey wash your mouth out !!!!!!!!

Don't you know that we have a grade A license and that we've been to 3 finals in 4 years ????

I do because I heard James Rule mention it somewhere

Joking aside Standee, you are 100% correct.


We have a grade A license off the pitch and a grade C license on it. The only other grade A thing about our club is the amount of fans that we have and the vast amount of money that we relentlessly pump into the club.


Does that constitute having the pi$$ taken out of us ????

I THINK IT DOES !!!

In your opinion. Others may differ.

Not any of the top SL sides, hence he's never been poached.

or successive GB/England coaches

Or he's turned down approaches.

And in what position did he last make an appearance for his country?

For the first few games of the season he looked every bit a top 6 halfback. A bit harsh to write him off after two games where just about everyone has looked gash.

Oh, he's a decent player, and a cracking boke, but I am 90% certain he's never had many decisions to make as far as contracts are concerned.

So you can only be a top half back if you've been poached?

FFS, open your eyes, the SS numbers are swelling.

he was picked as a WINGER for GB!

Don't start getting y with me you jumped up , just because I don't agree with your over inflated opinion.

Your having a laugh this kid should be allowed nowhere near the stadium he is awful. Then again so are some of the others.

Ah right, you can't defend an opinion, so you get all shouty shouty.

In your opinion, is there a world class 6 or 7 at FC?

There are no world class 6 or 7s in Super League, never mind at Hull FC.