Back down to earth for us and the team. Our aim from here is tbh to simply finish higher than we do at the break up point so if we finish 7th this round then anything better than that at play off point would show improvement. Not very exciting but thats where we are

Now come on that's harsh! The new floodlights look superb



Tonight showed how far behind the top 4 we are, too slow, awful passing skills and even the defence looked fragile. Happy we got in the 8, but it's going to be a long summer if we play like that.

very long summer

Last week was a celebration of mediocrity .

maybe, but still a good win

we arnt a top 6 team, we are 7 or 8 which is where we are,how many in fairness thought we would finish higher ?

Poor crowd tonight too. Don't know what was officially announced, and appreciate that Thursday night on SKY is never going to lead to a bumper crowd for any team, but it was like a morgue in there. Can't be long before Pearson is begging the fans to turn up again!

Pearson?

Man for man I believe we are a top 6 team, but the whole is much less than the sum of its parts. Put Wigan's coaching staff in charge of that squad for a couple of seasons and they would finish top 4. I'm pretty confident about that.

the team we had out tonight imo isn't a top 6 team

Indeed .

Pretty much this. Which - let's be clear - will require a significant improvement over tonight's showing.

We are not a top 4 team and that target was always beyond us despite any mathematical possibilities.

Your club has everything in place to be a top four club but what is missing? Must be really frustrating for Hull supporters.

form at home as been awful all season.

And I think it's going to lead to some awful gates this summer, in what should have been attractive games to draw the fans back in. I'd love to see the numbers of how many 'bums on seats' there are at games at the minute, and not the inflated official numbers that include pass holders who don't attend, the passes the SMC are forced to buy, the cheerleaders, the youth teams at half time etc

1. Pace
2. Coach with pedigree
3. Owner who delivers
4. Pace
5. Good recruitment
6. Pace

you forgot pace lol

i think we might lack pace

In fairness Adam Pearson has backed his coach with his cheque book, it's just his choice of coaches that has been a little off!

We also have had pace previously and have pace now.

Rankin, Shaul, Michaels and Lineham can all shift. As could Crooks and Briscoe in the recent past.....

They should attempt the same pace as I exhibited flooring it back from manchester to get back for the game, now back up at 5 to head back over to manny.
You know what, next time despite a pass I think I will just stay over.

I have lost my mojo with the club.

Pace gets mentioned all the time but for me if I was to write down all our problems it wouldn't feature on the first page.

Was our back 5 any slower than Wigan's last night?

Rankin shades Bowen
Lineham and Burgess are well matched
Logan beats Bateman
Gelling beats Talanoa
Michaels and Charnley are pretty equal

They often look quicker because they make better decisions and receive good ball which just gives them that extra split second. Our guys are almost having to work miracles to make a clean break.

Seems to me, our coach and players alike, lack basic intellect.

Burgess is really quick.

It's more skill and guile that we lack than pace.

I suspect that the average actual attendance this season (people physically in the ground) could be as low as about 8,500.

I feel last night shows how vitally important gareth ellis is to us,the start of our mid-season improvement was when ellis returned from injury and went on a decent run,now the top 8 playoffs without him it could become embarrassing,still at least theres no threat of relegation.
I know the format for the 1st part of the super 8,but what if leigh finished in the top 3 and say halifax or sheffield won the 4th and 5th place play off would they both go up? coyh.