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| so with 10 games to go we are here, the business end of the season that everyone bangs on about. you know the one, the time when teams say they will up their game and aim to peak at the right time to secure a play off berth and then beyond. and lets face it, if ever a team needs to up its game its us. so will we do it? well we have an equal split of home and away games again after our recent travels so that might help. the bad news is that we have to get at least 6 wins, so at some point in the very near future we will need to find more consistent form (only 7 wins from 16 so far). looking at the games i see it panning out like so
wakey win
wire loss
salford loss (they could have locke playing for them by then which will give them a boost, and they are very much in the same boat as us)
wigan loss
cas win (cup semi now their main target)
saints loss
bulls win
kr win
hudds loss
rhinos loss
so that's only 4 from 10, nowhere near enough, and the points return of 22 would equate to more or less a continuation of our season's form so far. so in order to get in the 8 we have to beat a couple of the so called bigger teams (warrington and saints look most likely as we are a home and they have both shown patchy form so far), whilst avoiding notable pitfalls (rovers and cas both look dodgy). so far this season we haven't beaten any of the big teams (except hudds if you class them as a big team). we need to do this to make the 8, and even then it will be hard.
sadly my prediction is 22 points and 9th or 10th
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| Pointless scraping in 8th place to get battered in the play offs.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Pointless scraping in 8th place to get battered in the play offs.'"
I think we could compete in them wherever we finish. We ain't going to win, and never was even if we'd had a decent season. But we'll compete against the likes of Warrington/Cas/Hudds/Cat and possibly Saints, but not so much against Leeds or Wigan.
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| Quote ="the artist"so with 10 games to go we are here, the business end of the season that everyone bangs on about. you know the one, the time when teams say they will up their game and aim to peak at the right time to secure a play off berth and then beyond. and lets face it, if ever a team needs to up its game its us. so will we do it? well we have an equal split of home and away games again after our recent travels so that might help. the bad news is that we have to get at least 6 wins, so at some point in the very near future we will need to find more consistent form (only 7 wins from 16 so far). looking at the games i see it panning out like so
wakey win
wire loss
salford loss (they could have locke playing for them by then which will give them a boost, and they are very much in the same boat as us)
wigan loss
cas win (cup semi now their main target)
saints loss
bulls win
kr win
hudds loss
rhinos loss
so that's only 4 from 10, nowhere near enough, and the points return of 22 would equate to more or less a continuation of our season's form so far. so in order to get in the 8 we have to beat a couple of the so called bigger teams (warrington and saints look most likely as we are a home and they have both shown patchy form so far), whilst avoiding notable pitfalls (rovers and cas both look dodgy). so far this season we haven't beaten any of the big teams (except hudds if you class them as a big team). we need to do this to make the 8, and even then it will be hard.
sadly my prediction is 22 points and 9th or 10th'"
Cant argue with that summary which means we'll have gone backwards under Radford
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| Not a chance im afraid. Rovers will get eighth though
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| Would like to say yes, but don't really believe we will.
As the OP says, we probably need another 6 wins (possibly 7) and given our remaining fixtures there needs to be a significant upturn in our consistancy in order to achieve that. Quite frankly, 6/7 wins from 10 looks beyond the 2014 team, especially given our propensity to throw in a horror show when we least expect it (ala Widnes/Wakefield earlier in the year).
The current top six look set for the play-offs already, which only leaves two further spots. Catalans look a reasonable bet from fortress Perpignan, even with their ongoing bouts of travel sickness, which only leaves one remaining spot. My guess would be for our nearest & dearest to overtake a fading Widnes side to finish 8th.
I would just like to see some signs in these last ten games of some potential progress in order to fill me with some hope that maybe better days do lie ahead, but I'm not holding my breath on that score either.
Too much damage was done in March/April/May and I think we've left ourselves with too much to do to rescue this season as anything worthwhile.
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| Three more wins imo , We just don't create enough to trouble a decent team and we still make even harder for ourselves with the errors we still come up with .
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| wakey away doesn't look like the gimme everyone seems to be expecting
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| Don't think we will do it, tenth for me at best but do hope I'm wrong. Game against Wakefield taken on even more importance after their cracking win today.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"wakey away doesn't look like the gimme everyone seems to be expecting'"
Wakefield, like every team in Superleague (apart from London that is), are capable of a good result on any given day. They played a young Wigan team today, but regardless of who Wigan had out it's still a really strong result. However, on the other hand, let's not forget that they very nearly got turned over by London the week before.
We will have to play well and not take them for granted, but it's a game we should win 9 times out of 10 imo.
As for the playoffs. I really don't know. We are capable of picking up the wins we need, but we've flattered to deceive too often this year for me to have any real confidence.
Widnes, imo, are gone. They have punched above their weight all season and are starting to slide now. Throw in a semi final to attract their attention and I would be surprised if they win any more than 3 league more league games. I wouldn't really like to call it between us and Rovers. The derby is a crucial game.
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| I think of the last 10 games i think our results will be, wakey win, wire win, salford win, wigan lose, cas win, saints win, bradford win, kr win, hudds lose, leeds lose, and think we will just scrape into the top 8 just an opinion of corse
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| Even if we scrape into 8th it will just mean that a miserable season drags on for another week.
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| cant see it tbh, but hopefully better things to come next season................
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Wakefield, like every team in Superleague (apart from London that is), are capable of a good result on any given day. They played a young Wigan team today, but regardless of who Wigan had out it's still a really strong result. However, on the other hand, let's not forget that they very nearly got turned over by London the week before.
We will have to play well and not take them for granted, but it's a game we should win 9 times out of 10 imo.
As for the playoffs. I really don't know. We are capable of picking up the wins we need, but we've flattered to deceive too often this year for me to have any real confidence.
Widnes, imo, are gone. They have punched above their weight all season and are starting to slide now. Throw in a semi final to attract their attention and I would be surprised if they win any more than 3 league more league games. I wouldn't really like to call it between us and Rovers. The derby is a crucial game.'"
Lets not forget we have already beaten you once this season at your own ground!
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Wakefield, like every team in Superleague (apart from London that is), are capable of a good result on any given day. They played a young Wigan team today, but regardless of who Wigan had out it's still a really strong result. However, on the other hand, let's not forget that they very nearly got turned over by London the week before.'"
+ Wigan only played on Wednesday night, 3 games in 7 days is no good no matter how big your squad is.
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| Quote ="vastman"Lets not forget we have already beaten you once this season at your own ground!
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True. Although the way you won that game makes me more confident we will win this one. We had the game all but won and just stopped playing. I think (hope) we will want to prove a point this time.
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| 3 games in 7 days didn't Hull play something stupid like 10 games in 14 days once
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"3 games in 7 days didn't Hull play something stupid like 10 games in 14 days once'"
It was ten games in eighteen days, including five in seven (we played Wedneday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday). That was in April 1985 in the run up to the Challenge Cup final.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It was ten games in eighteen days, including five in seven (we played Wedneday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday). That was in April 1985 in the run up to the Challenge Cup final.'"
makes you laugh when teams complain having to play sunday then thursday
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| Have wakey won a game or something? Not seen hide nor hair of vastman for months
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It was ten games in eighteen days, including five in seven (we played Wedneday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday). That was in April 1985 in the run up to the Challenge Cup final.'"
I was knackered just watching.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I was knackered just watching.'"
Forty-eight games that season all told, nineteen from the start of March until the end of April. The equivalent of more than half a modern day season in eight weeks!
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| I don't want us to make the 8 because I wouldn't like to see us embarassed if we do.
In fact, I'd prefer us not take part in Super League or the Challenge Cup in 2015 just in case we aren't good enough.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Have wakey won a game or something? Not seen hide nor hair of vastman for months'"
Check the league table we have won one less game than Hull this season a win on Sunday puts us on the same points granted your points difference is far superior to ours should be a good game.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Forty-eight games that season all told, nineteen from the start of March until the end of April. The equivalent of more than half a modern day season in eight weeks!'"
Crazy that we played 11 games in the month of April mainly cos we lost at least 2 games due to bad weather in both November and January and drawing twice in the cup comps, however we did actually play 50 games (incl 3 friendlies) that year.
In 84/85 we put a team out for 53 games, including 3 early season friendlies and 4 games (in 11 days) in NZ/Oz end of May early June.
In 1959/60 we actually played 47 competetive domestic matches (38 League, 4 yorkshire & 5 CC), the most ever league games was the first in the new Northern union season 1898/96 which we played 42 games.
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