Simply not good enough to win us a trophy this year. No threat with the ball, we are so easy to read.

Been the same for some time though. We look like a side who doesn't see the ball between games and the basic skills are very poor IMO. We have some great attacking players but our attacking structures and ball control are nowhere near good enough

Apart from Castleford we are in the ball park for points scored this season, for me it's not the problem.

It's the errors and penalties which are doing us and nothing else. Its not unusual for us to defend 3 sets of six on our own tryline multiple times in a game, which I imagine would zap any energy in attack.

The desire is there and the effort so I don't see it as a crisis but I agree the league has probably gone now.

Anything to do with Horne going?

7th for tries scored so some way behind the best attacking sides in the league

What has really changed from last season?
Just not good enough at the moment!
Confidence seems low , discipline poor, retention terrible.
At a loss really !!

30% completion 1st half
52% completion 2nd half..

Shocking....

If we carry on in this vein, players will be burnt out through needless
defence..

I see Sneyd is copping flak, Is he the only player dropping the ball?

it may be simple but we hold the ball we might start winning,

No but when he has ball in hand he is doing very little with it apart from a kick on the last tackle.
Should not have been brought straight back in when Kelly/Connor combo was playing well.
If Kelly is fit and Connor available i think Snyed will miss out next week.

Sneyd will play if fit. Tried to poke his head through the line a few times last night, like the keyboard warriors told him to, last week, and got clobberd heavily once. They're just lulling everyone else into a false sense of security.

We need to stop trying to throw it around like the harlem globetrotters and drive it in more, too many handling errors and daft offloads last few games.

It's a balance isn't it? People want entertaining, error-free, consistent winning rugby. Otherwise known as the moon on a stick.

Cas are the only team to deliver close to this but fell at their 2nd play-off game hurdle in one of only 2 competitions.

What is the purpose of this post?
Makes no sense.
Fancy a rugby player getting clobbered.
Sneyd very rarely takes a tackle anyway and again rarely takes on the line.
Hardly keyboard warrior stuff is it just because it does not compute with your way of thinking.
This thread is about attack which you think a scrum half would be integral too.

Totally agree with Bomnbed Out - how many sets of six do you see us have and the only involvement is a kick on the final play. He's a scrum half for gods sake, should be involved far more.
Even the young kid at Saints, Richardson was heavily involved whenever Saints had the ball against us. He has to do more, it's as simple as that.

I think our best rugby is when we just throw it about, like the last 15 minutes at Leeds, when we come away from the structures because more people are trying to create and thats where our biggest problem is. We don't have enough creators. Washy looks more comfortable on the ball than sneyd at times.

don't think you can blame sneyd,the whole team is going through a bad patch.even Houghton has been sub standard.

The whole team has been poor but Sneyd is also very culpable.
His inability to take on the line, his catch and pass style of play, the way he stands back to do this and last play kicks make us a very easy to read and predictable team.

As this thread is about attack that's what your halves are there to instigate and control.
Kelly has the ball you get excitement and uncertainty. Sneyd gets the ball you know he's just going to pass.
I personally think when all are fit Connor and Kelly should be our pairing.
As we've not had a settled scrum half for years I think some people regard Sneyd as the new messiah and are very protective. He's steady away if nothing else but not the cheeky chappie style of scrum half I'd have liked to have seen.

hes the only scrum half in hulls history to engineer a win at Wembley,something even the great peter sterling couldn't do,sneyd will do for me.just my opinion mind you.

Sneyd has been with us for 2.5 seasons. What make you think he will change the way he plays now? He never has been, nor will be a "take the line on" half back. Expecting him to now do this is quite frankly pie in the sky.

Very little criticism of him last season, yet he is playing the same. Is it Sneyds fault that those around him have teflon gloves on at the moment?

We havent created much as we have not exerted any decent pressure on the opposition due to our handling errors. Expecting one player to pull it out of the bag, is ridiculous.

It isn't Sneyds fault those around him are wearing teflon gloves I'll agree but he is also culpable of that himself. I also don't believe he is playing the same as last year either. Last year he was more consistent in going to the line before passing or putting a short kick in, this season he seems a lot less inclined to engage the opposing defence and pass without the opposition defence being anywhere near. We all know he isn't a running halfback but as a halfback he has to at least engage the defence otherwise we will create nothing in attack or do we just rely on kicks?

I am not expecting one player to pull it out the bag but I do expect an experienced halfback of Sneyds ability at the very least to engage the oppositions defence.

Exactly my thoughts. I don't really want Sneyd to take the line on, but I want him to engage defenders. Currently, he is passing 5 yards away from the defenders, they don't need to commit to engage Sneyd, so concentrate on his runners, which means that we are not creating gaps or uncertainty.

No one thinks Sneyd is Messianic, more metronomic with his boot. The point of my earlier post was and is that if Sneyd is fit, Radford will play him, thankfully he is the coach. Keyboard warriors are entitled to thier opinion of course but we all know how it will go. Sneyd will be patnered by either Kelly or Connor, whoever is fit. Some short memories on here or Alziemers, Lance Todd trophy winner, he normally steps up when it's needed. The team has been poor collectively over the last 3 games but could have secured 3 wins. There is that a better post? Bless.

Why is that we have to alziemers if in this specific case some don't totally agree with you? What makes you the top judge?

I've supported Radders when plenty on here wanted him out, I didn't call anyone for that - it's opinions. If you don't want opinions, get on Twitter and join the almighty echo chamber.

We all know he'll play Sneyd with Kelly/Connor - i'm saying he needs to do more, simple as that.

For me his main area of improvement is his passing, how many times since he came has he produced a really good pass to set up a try, too often for a halfback his pass goes to ground.
His running game is pretty good when he has the confidence to do so and his defence isn't too bad for a halfback, he has improvement in his have to be a top halfback, but I'm sure Radford abs Sneyd know this and he seems the type of kid to work hard on his have to improve.

Damned if you do damned if you don't. We've had critics in the media saying that we're too steady , not enough flair and then in the same sentence criticising the same players for going off piste. That has to create pressure when things aren't working and we're suffering for it. It will probably just take a few decent passes hitting their targets and maybe a few 50/50's going our way , eg , penalty for a ball steal for us rather than a knock on against us , for some confidence to come back. Not sure that more pass and catch drills will actually make much difference , more about lifting the group from a coaching point of view.

Read my post again Mr. Hasty. I said everyone is entitled to there opinion wether I agree or not. I didn't "call anyone", sounds a bit school boyish to me. The alziemers quip was tongue in cheek about the crack Sneyd is getting when we play poorly. In my humble opinion it's unfair to single him out for lack of attacking options. Connor was playing that night, too. The whole team needs to do more if we're to succeed in any competition this season. Sneyd led the line almost single handedly last season but is playing a slightly different role, now he has constant stand off support. As for me being "top judge", thanks for the backhanded compliment. You can stick Twitter where the sun doesn't shine, your welcome to it.