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| How long has he got left on his current contract? Is it likely he'll be offered another one? Thanks.
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| Quote ="MarioRugby"How long has he got left on his current contract? Is it likely he'll be offered another one? Thanks.'"
Think it runs out end of this season.
Will he be offered another one? Who knows!
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| Been in talks a while about his new deal.
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| Hes getting it on April 1st in keeping with club tradition
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Hes getting it on April 1st in keeping with club tradition'"
Double celebration in your house then with it been your birthday.
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| If he gets another contract season pass sales will plummet
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| I suspect the expectation was an improved season and extension, up to a fortnight ago. If AP decides he wants a change, he's potentially more likely to get a good candidate at the end of the season. Not sure the likes of McNamara would make much difference though. FC's appetite for proven top level coaches over the last 25 years has been non existent. I remember writing to James Rule on this point re Agar saying in the salary cap era the coach is the biggest differentiator so we should trade up and got told I was wrong.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I suspect the expectation was an improved season and extension, up to a fortnight ago. If AP decides he wants a change, he's potentially more likely to get a good candidate at the end of the season. Not sure the likes of McNamara would make much difference though. FC's appetite for proven top level coaches over the last 25 years has been non existent. I remember writing to James Rule on this point re Agar saying in the salary cap era the coach is the biggest differentiator so we should trade up and got told I was wrong.'"
Yea, I spent 30 minutes on the phone with Rule (ring a director) telling him Agar was wrong for the job and the crowds would fall by at least 2,000 if they carried on with him. He would not have it, I think he was under instructions from the Hethringtons, they was not gonna spend any more money then they had to. We never made the play-offs that season and crowds went down by 2,000. I've got faith in Pearson when it comes to the crunch, Radford will go if he can't pull this back round there's no doubt about that. The "can I have a word in my office" quote is not something Adam shys away from!!!
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"Yea, I spent 30 minutes on the phone with Rule (ring a director) telling him Agar was wrong for the job and the crowds would fall by at least 2,000 if they carried on with him. He would not have it, I think he was under instructions from the Hethringtons, they was not gonna spend any more money then they had to. We never made the play-offs that season and crowds went down by 2,000. I've got faith in Pearson when it comes to the crunch, Radford will go if he can't pull this back round there's no doubt about that. The "can I have a word in my office" quote is not something Adam shys away from!!!'"
I'm really interested in what Motu Tony's influence in all this is. He's brought some good Polynesian players in but must also be frustrated. Plus if I were Frank Pritchard and coming over here to see, say, Radford replaced by Rowley (who'd be more experienced than Radford when appointed for example), I'd be underwhelmed.
One issue is cost, clearly. I don't mean cost of the head coach exclusively, more the sort of comprehensive back room setup a really top coach would demand to do their job with parity to Wigan and Leeds. We're miles off that currently. Another is certainty, Middle 8s a real possibility on current form, so again a barrier to attracting the right candidate, particularly with the associated difficulties in attracting players for next year because those negotiations will be starting now.
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| If and when radford goes I have zero confidence that pearson will appoint the right man in his place. We desperately need an experienced head coach who can steady the ship and get us headed in the right direction. It's what we've needed since sharp left but we won't do it. We'll either appoint a failed coach like macnamara or rowley or some other former assistant with no track record. As someone once said, it's like sticking a learner driver in your new car and not expecting him to write it off
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If and when radford goes I have zero confidence that pearson will appoint the right man in his place. We desperately need an experienced head coach who can steady the ship and get us headed in the right direction. It's what we've needed since sharp left but we won't do it. We'll either appoint a failed coach like macnamara or rowley or some other former assistant with no track record. As someone once said, it's like sticking a learner driver in your new car and not expecting him to write it off'"
daniel anderson still coaching?
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| Quote ="number 6"daniel anderson still coaching?'"
I thought he had something to do with the refs , Maybe wrong .
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| Quote ="B0NES"I thought he had something to do with the refs , Maybe wrong .'"
wasnt hundred per cent sure, realistically would any coach come from the nrl?
morgan? mcnamara?
people say powell form cas but i doubt Pearson would pay a fee to buy his contract out, aslo who's to say powell would want to come to hull
morrison form dewsbury seems to have a few admirers
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| I do wonder, short of a Wayne Bennett, whom fans would be delighted to see us appoint. Powell is the obvious one but seems very happy where he is and realistically would be at best a sideways move for him to swap a highly functioning top 4/5 team for arguably bigger potential 7-10 scrappers. But beyond Powell, who is an ambitious but realistic potential target that would get fans really excited?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I do wonder, short of a Wayne Bennett, whom fans would be delighted to see us appoint. Powell is the obvious one but seems very happy where he is and realistically would be at best a sideways move for him to swap a highly functioning top 4/5 team for arguably bigger potential 7-10 scrappers. But beyond Powell, who is an ambitious but realistic potential target that would get fans really excited?'"
The Venn diagram for experienced, successful and attainable isn't something to fill you with optimism.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The Venn diagram for experienced, successful and attainable isn't something to fill you with optimism.'"
Exactly this. When you scan down current SL coaches, few had stellar coaching careers prior to their appointment. In this context the expectation we could get a "proven experienced" coach looks unrealistic.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I do wonder, short of a Wayne Bennett, whom fans would be delighted to see us appoint. Powell is the obvious one but seems very happy where he is and realistically would be at best a sideways move for him to swap a highly functioning top 4/5 team for arguably bigger potential 7-10 scrappers. But beyond Powell, who is an ambitious but realistic potential target that would get fans really excited?'"
I don't think there's many coaches that would get universal praise from the fans.
Perhaps the better question to ask everyone is what do people think we need should Radford leave? Someone with experience as a head coach? A tactician? Someone to shore up our defence? Someone with a flamboyant style? A motivator? What would be ideal for you and who do you think we could realistically bring in to meet your requirements?
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| A manager of men. Who is a top coach held in both high regard and respected by his team? And by that I don't mean too close to them or soft on them so they 'like' him.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Exactly this. When you scan down current SL coaches, few had stellar coaching careers prior to their appointment. In this context the expectation we could get a "proven experienced" coach looks unrealistic.'"
Who expects us to get a "proven experienced" coach? As far as I'm aware I'm the only one mentioning it and I've specifically said we won't get one. Or is it another of your made up quotes?
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"I don't think there's many coaches that would get universal praise from the fans.
Perhaps the better question to ask everyone is what do people think we need should Radford leave? Someone with experience as a head coach? A tactician? Someone to shore up our defence? Someone with a flamboyant style? A motivator? What would be ideal for you and who do you think we could realistically bring in to meet your requirements?'"
It's an interesting point. I read a piece a while back criticisizing a Premier League club for drawing up a shortlist of very different candidates for their vacancy. The suggestion being that they didn't really know what they wanted and had no clear plan.
In the PL though you've got a whole world of options, beyond Harry Redknapp, Sam Allardyce, Tony Pulis and Steve McClaren.
A detailed checklist is probably not as valuable if you are choosing between the half dozen or so familiar options touted for SL jobs.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Who expects us to get a "proven experienced" coach? As far as I'm aware I'm the only one mentioning it and I've specifically said we won't get one. Or is it another of your made up quotes?'"
It's fair to say Radford's 2.5 year tenure has been characterised by adverse commentary on his lack of experience. UllFC for example has long advocated us getting a more experienced coach in. Would you like me to find a quote? I said "could", not "will", of course.
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| ......quickest way is google hull "proven experienced" site:rlfans.com
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| Many have likened us to Newcastle Utd - a big club who spend money but consistently fail and employ bang average coaches
They have just changed their model having scrapped the head coach position to employ a manager and one who is a proven winner - and he's bringing his own fresh new backroom team and not making do with some people who are proven losers from previous regimes
Thats what we need to do
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| ... by employing someone sacked from their previous post after 7 months in charge?
I guess most managers end up that way.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Many have likened us to Newcastle Utd - a big club who spend money but consistently fail and employ bang average coaches
They have just changed their model having scrapped the head coach position to employ a manager and one who is a proven winner - and he's bringing his own fresh new backroom team and not making do with some people who are proven losers from previous regimes
Thats what we need to do'"
Would you include motu in that, he seems to have done decent job
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