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| Extends deal until the end of 2016.
Excellent news. Got better throughout his stay with us and was one of, if not the most consistent forward for us in 2013.
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| Very pleased with this. He says in the Mail today how he felt he was played out of position last season and is looking forward to a fresh start in 2014.
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| Good news
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| Excellent news. Hopefully he will be used better (outwide) and he will step up again.
Had a good season last year, in fact i think he has been a good signing, but because we paid for him, people are unfair on him.
Two of our better players last season signed on longer deals, maybe shows you what they think of Radford.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Excellent news. Hopefully he will be used better (outwide) and he will step up again.
Had a good season last year, in fact i think he has been a good signing, but because we paid for him, people are unfair on him.'"
Agreed, glad to have him tied up for a few more years.
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| Excellent news very underrated IMO. Crooks signed long term last year Dave.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Excellent news very underrated IMO. Crooks signed long term last year Dave.'"
Not that long-term, until 2015.
Seemed a little odd when Pearson said we're talking to Lineham again already when he's signed until 2017 as recently as this year, but didn't mention Crooks.
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| Another average player gets an extension,wow!!.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Another average player gets an extension,wow!!.'"
Should change your profile. Says 100% hull fc
joe was by far our most consistent forward last year. He gets stick every week when players play worse than him. Totally unjustified. The lads 23 ffs. I for one am glad he has signed a new deal and earned it. Good luck westy.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Another average player gets an extension,wow!!.'"
For a minute I thought we were going to get through the first page.
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| Glad he's signed on again I think his spirit is his biggest attribute and he is one of the few for whom it seems to matter when out on the pitch. I agree with his assessment of his own game and hopefully he can raise his overall level whilst maintaining consistency. Let's hope Lee Radford can bring the best out of him.
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| Good news. Underrated by folk who don't actually watch what goes on, but one of our better forwards and still bags of potential to improve further.
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| Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him lazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.
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| Great news . Favourite fc player
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Another average player gets an extension,wow!!.'"
We'll have him back if you don't want him...
To be fair he has not been quite as prolific at Hull as he was at Cas so far but I think he makes a huge contribution. A good clue was his worth in the Fantasy RL points stats...think he is about the highest and it is not even his best position.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him lazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.'"
You're talking e, it's as simple as that.
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| Apart from Liam Farrell, I can't think of a better English 2nd rower 23 or under.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him lazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.'"
And I rest my case, your honour.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="Suzie"Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him lazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.'"
And I rest my case, your honour.'"
For me I don't necessarily think its laziness more a case of tiredness from expelling energy. Again he's been used like Ellis as an extra battering ram instead of where both him & Ellis can be devastating down the edges. A proper structured attack utilising the skills of Westerman & Ellis will make a huge difference to us and give us a different dimension altogether.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him =#0000FFlazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.'"
I personally think that's the least accurate of all the criticisms that are levelled at him. Error counts, penalties, the missed big hits, etc. I can at least see people making a case, but lazy?
Our 2nd highest tackler.
Our 3rd highest marker tackles.
Our 3rd highest carries.
6th highest metres (4th if you take out McDonnell and Briscoe due to kick returns).
These are the 4 key stats to look at for a player's effort and he comes out highly in all of them, only Houghton beats him in each category. What was that about watching properly again?
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| Quote ="Chris71"=#0000FFFor me I don't necessarily think its laziness more a case of tiredness from expelling energy. Again he's been used like Ellis as an extra battering ram instead of where both him & Ellis can be devastating down the edges. A proper structured attack utilising the skills of Westerman & Ellis will make a huge difference to us and give us a different dimension altogether.'"
Exactly. The stats show that he does/looks for as much or more work than anyone except Houghton. He then simply runs out of steam at times and just can't carry on at the same rate, which gets him sloppy sometimes.
I'd be interested to see the stats on how many minutes our forwards have played this year, I suspect he'd be out in front of even Houghton, and reasonably comfortably.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Apart from Liam Farrell, I can't think of a better English 2nd rower 23 or under.'"
John Bateman and Stevie Ward
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| Quote ="Suzie"Some comments on here make me laugh, if people have a differing opinion they can't actually watch a game properly!.
My opinion is that he is only average, but will hopefully improve. I actually find him lazy at times and for me he gets caught out defensively trying to put big hits in and failing, played out wide used properly he'll hopefully come good. The fact that some are saying he was our most consistent forward probably somes our season up.'"
I tend to agree with this. Hope he steps up next year. I think youth is on his side and can turn into a hopefully great player for us
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| Quote ="Chris71"For me I don't necessarily think its laziness more a case of tiredness from expelling energy. Again he's been used like Ellis as an extra battering ram instead of where both him & Ellis can be devastating down the edges. A proper structured attack utilising the skills of Westerman & Ellis will make a huge difference to us and give us a different dimension altogether.'"
I don't believe he's lazy at all. And neither would anyone else who actually watches how he plays. Hence my comment.
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