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| hope he's not booed, he was one of the stand outs last weekend. granted he's not my favourite player but on saturday he has an england shirt on and my team on saturday is england, no one else. lets rise above the numpties who booed him at leeds mid season and get behind him and the rest of the team as i want another crack at the aussies
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| Seriously doubt he will be. Was brilliant last week.
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| He won't care if he's booed. A quick look at his bank statement will cheer him up in no time.
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| To my knowledge only Wigan fans taking the P*** and stupid Leeds fans have ever booed him. Why would Rugby League fans in Hull boo him. I personally have little time for his antics (at times I feel he is a cheat) but equally he was brilliant on Saturday and I hope he is equally as good on Saturday with the full backing of the entire British crowd.
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| I for one won't be booing him whatsoever. Don't like him as a player against us, but if I could pick one player to pull on an FC shirt, I think it would be him. Best British player I have seen in a long long time, maybe ever. He is something else. Will cheer him all the way against the KIwis.
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| Could well be the match winner for England.
He seemed to get a decent response at Wembley.
I think the booing saga was rather overplayed by the Sky pundits in particular.
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| I don't even bother booing him when he plays for wigan at the KC
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't even bother booing him when he plays for wigan at the KC'"
Me neither, it's pathetic. Hope he has another great game on Saturday. He could be the key to us winning.
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| Great RL player, anyone who boos him on Saturday wants throwing out.
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| Great player and one I'm glad he's staying in league.
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| Keep the Leeds fans out of the stadium= No problems
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Me neither, it's pathetic. Hope he has another great game on Saturday. He could be the key to us winning.'"
Its just jealousy at the end of the day, lets face it most of us can only dream of having a player of that quality in our side.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint" lets face it most of us can only dream of having a player of that quality in our side.'"
FFS. He's good, but he's not that good. He's a strong, elusive runner who backs up well and, as a result, scores a lot of tries. The fact that he's in the sort of position where he's heavily involved in the attack means that he stands out a lot more than a prop or second row who might be just as effective at carrying out their respective roles. He's an 'end product' player - a finisher - but he needs others to be doing their jobs just as well as he does his in order for that to be possible. The way some people go on you'd think he was quite literally a one man team. I don't think he's any better in his position than Roby/Burgess/Ellis (for example) are in theirs, he's just been hyped up that much by Eddie and Stevo that some people have started to believe he's some sort of RL God.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"FFS. He's good, but he's not that good. He's a strong, elusive runner who backs up well and, as a result, scores a lot of tries. The fact that he's in the sort of position where he's heavily involved in the attack means that he stands out a lot more than a prop or second row who might be just as effective at carrying out their respective roles. He's an 'end product' player - a finisher - but he needs others to be doing their jobs just as well as he does his in order for that to be possible. The way some people go on you'd think he was quite literally a one man team. I don't think he's any better in his position than Roby/Burgess/Ellis (for example) are in theirs, he's just been hyped up that much by Eddie and Stevo that some people have started to believe he's some sort of RL God.'"
Its all about opinions, thats yours. he is the best Brit player at the moment imo dosnt need hype to be honest, just need to watch him to see how good he is, i would personnelly say he is a very similar player to Horny but about 5 yards quicker in everything he does, even when Horny was at his height.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"FFS. He's good, but he's not that good. He's a strong, elusive runner who backs up well and, as a result, scores a lot of tries. The fact that he's in the sort of position where he's heavily involved in the attack means that he stands out a lot more than a prop or second row who might be just as effective at carrying out their respective roles. He's an 'end product' player - a finisher - but he needs others to be doing their jobs just as well as he does his in order for that to be possible. The way some people go on you'd think he was quite literally a one man team. I don't think he's any better in his position than Roby/Burgess/Ellis (for example) are in theirs, he's just been hyped up that much by Eddie and Stevo that some people have started to believe he's some sort of RL God.'"
He's England's best play at 21.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"FFS. He's good, but he's not that good. He's a strong, elusive runner who backs up well and, as a result, scores a lot of tries. The fact that he's in the sort of position where he's heavily involved in the attack means that he stands out a lot more than a prop or second row who might be just as effective at carrying out their respective roles. He's an 'end product' player - a finisher - but he needs others to be doing their jobs just as well as he does his in order for that to be possible. The way some people go on you'd think he was quite literally a one man team. I don't think he's any better in his position than Roby/Burgess/Ellis (for example) are in theirs, he's just been hyped up that much by Eddie and Stevo that some people have started to believe he's some sort of RL God.'"
He is a good player but agree with most of what you say. As for the booing it is up to the supporters if they choose to boo him, they have paid their money and they are allowed to voice their opinions.
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| stupid topic
not been booed in the previous england four nations games so why this one ...because its in hull?
England game....cheer England!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"He's England's best play at 21.'"
I'd disagree. He's one of our best, but I find it hard to accept that he's definitely better than Graham or Roby or Ellis etc. He just attracts more of the glory because he scores a lot and makes eye-catching runs.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'd disagree. He's one of our best, but I find it hard to accept that he's definitely better than Graham or Roby or Ellis etc. He just attracts more of the glory because he scores a lot and makes eye-catching runs.'"
Maybe so, especially with Roby, but he is definatley as good as them at his position, and much younger. He is an exciting player who creates a lot for himself and is worth raving about IMO.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Maybe so, especially with Roby, but he is definatley as good as them at his position, and much younger. He is an exciting player who creates a lot for himself and is worth raving about IMO.'"
He is an exciting player, but some of the stuff that gets written about him on here is way OTT. And I don't believe any single player is worth changing the entire salary cap structure for, which is what appears to have happened here.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He is an exciting player, but some of the stuff that gets written about him on here is way OTT. And I don't believe any single player is worth changing the entire salary cap structure for, which is what appears to have happened here.'"
Don't think its a single player though, is it? Ellis, Graham, Morley, Burgess have gone to NRL. If we want to keep our best players in SL something has to be done, BUT it has to be done fairly with no grey areas. Time will tell.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Great RL player, anyone who boos him on Saturday wants throwing out.'"
I absolutely agree, i cannot understand the mentality of anyone who boos an England player, especialy one that in my mind is one of the greatest prospects to play the English game in many a year.
I dont always agree with some of his antics at club level but, when he puts that England shirt on he is one of ours and should be supported as such.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Don't think its a single player though, is it? Ellis, Graham, Morley, Burgess have gone to NRL. If we want to keep our best players in SL something has to be done, BUT it has to be done fairly with no grey areas. Time will tell.'"
I think it is one player because young British players playing in the NRL is (rightly) seen as a positive on the whole. The more players get experience in that competition, the better it will be for the international game.
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| He can be a plonker at times but is really the only player we have who can mix it with the Aussies and who they really fear. Ellis is a tower of stregth but predictable (being a forward). I don't feel any of the others can cut it. Yes that includes Roby and Graham who seems to have a godlike status just for playing the full 80mins, solid defender yes but not a feared forward and rarely breaks the first line.
I hope to be proved wrong on Saturday against what I hope is going to be a massively aggressive Kiwi pack.
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| Hope there are no boos for Tomkins, and no FC or KR songs either. Lets just concentrate on getting behind England.
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