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| Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.
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| I have aq massive soft spot for the Guy, will always respect the fact he got us the CCup..
At last years semi's my lad wanted his photo with him (in his Hull shirt) a t@ss pot official said 'no sorry', Kear said ' shurr-up daft lad' and told my son to come through, lovely man. Very good coach for knock out rugby as well.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.'"
And the only reason is they beat us tonight.
Lets see if he goes further than Morgan.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"And the only reason is they beat us tonight.
Lets see if he goes further than Morgan.'"
This thread has nothing to do with Rovers, it's about an ex Hull FC coach and comparing what he has achieved (5th or 6th) with a poorer squad and comparable injuries to the current FC incumbent. Get over yourself.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.'"
A good honest No7 who we would have turned our noses up to as he is "not good enough for us". The league is littered with them. Robinson, Deacon, Dobson players who week in week out put in the hard graft and have that cheeky chappy scrum half personality about them and a little bit of guile which we have lacked for so many years now. Whatever their short comings they could all have done a job for us.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"This thread has nothing to do with Rovers, it's about an ex Hull FC coach and comparing what he has achieved (5th or 6th) with a poorer squad and comparable injuries to the current FC incumbent. Get over yourself.'" Don't get involved with them ..everybody know how bitter that lot get when they lose
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| Quote ="hfc herts"A good honest No7 who we would have turned our noses up to as he is "not good enough for us". The league is littered with them. Robinson, Deacon, Dobson players who week in week out put in the hard graft and have that cheeky chappy scrum half personality about them and a little bit of guile which we have lacked for so many years now. Whatever their short comings they could all have done a job for us.'"
Would Obst and Hall be allowed to play in the same team?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.'"
Always felt very uncomfortable about the Kear exit. Brough does Ok for him, too. His injury situation was worse than ours early in the season, as well
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.'"
But yet again , Kicking the ball dead isnt what Sky want to see . Has Murdoch got a gun against Hemmings head FFS.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intending to go over old ground on his departure from FC, but if you take this season in isolation and look what he's delivered with a lower quality squad and similar levels of injury to us, he deserves a lot of credit. Good gameplan again tonight, Obst taking control, kicking and turning Rovers round time and again. A good mix of so-called "negative" tactics to grind things out and yet overall an entertaining brand of rugby. Certainly gets the maximum out of what he's got available to him.'"
Whatever the reasons for ridding our club of his services they would have to be good to override the fact that his teams in general play to a plan and try to carry out that plan to the best of their collective ability. That is more than we have had recently. That said I thought their opposition tonight was ordinary.
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| Quote ="B0NES"But yet again , Kicking the ball dead isnt what Sky want to see . Has Murdoch got a gun against Hemmings head FFS.'"
Yet again it shows that a half back with a modicum of ability can improve the odds of his team succeeding in a game even with an average skill level.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Yet again it shows that a half back with a modicum of ability can improve the odds of his team succeeding in a game even with an average skill level.'"
Correct. Obst had a terrific game I thought, but in kicking terms just continually drilled the ball into touch for a scrum on Rovers 20. Not sophisticated but wearing to defend against.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Correct. Obst had a terrific game I thought, but in kicking terms just continually drilled the ball into touch for a scrum on Rovers 20. Not sophisticated but wearing to defend against.'"
Yes and for a while I thought his coach might have told him to do just that.
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| Quote ="B0NES"But yet again , Kicking the ball dead isnt what Sky want to see . Has Murdoch got a gun against Hemmings head FFS.'" bradford did the same against us last night altho the kicks didnt go into touch, it made us try to drive the ball out of our own half, time and time again. Whish at times we stuggled.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Yes and for a while I thought his coach might have told him to do just that.'"
No he just tapped it out with his fingers.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Whatever the reasons for ridding our club of his services they would have to be good to override the fact that his teams in general play to a plan and try to carry out that plan to the best of their collective ability. That is more than we have had recently. That said I thought their opposition tonight was ordinary.'"
It was a really poor game from both sides. I doubt either had a completion rate much above 50%. wakey looked to be more cohesive which is why they won. Have to say that this has been the worst SL season for me overall in terms of skill levels and consistency.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"bradford did the same against us last night altho the kicks didnt go into touch, it made us try to drive the ball out of our own half, time and time again. Whish at times we stuggled.'"
It's a good tactic if you have a dominant pack. Maybe that's why we don't do it
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| Last night Wakey were without Petersen,Blanch,Martin,Bibey,Rooney,Drew,Snitch,Sculthorpe,Pitts so thats 9 players of which 3 of them have been released yet they are still capable of producing performances and have finished in the top 6 which is a tremendous effort for a club of there resources, yet we have similar problems yet put the old injuries and not Agars team spin on it
just shows what you can achieve with a coach who gets the best out of the team
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"And the only reason is they beat us tonight.
Lets see if he goes further than Morgan.'"
Bit touchy there !!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"And the only reason is they beat us tonight.
Lets see if he goes further than Morgan.'"
He's already gone much further than Morgan. He's coached in SL for longer and won two Challenge Cups. Morgan has a way to go before he even catches up, mate.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"No he just tapped it out with his fingers.'"
He makes Jerry Lee Lewis look like a statue.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He's already gone much further than Morgan. He's coached in SL for longer and won two Challenge Cups. Morgan has a way to go before he even catches up, mate.'"
Beat me to it.
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| It is arguable that Wakefield have a weaker squad than yours.
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| It does make you wonder doesn't it, if JK was given time with the club how we could have improved. It seemed he lost the dressing room, certain players let it be known they wanted him out and they stopped performing for him..............sound familiar. If the board had the faith back then to back the coach and not to let the players rule the roost we might not have had 2 years of utter sheete we've had to put up with.
John Kear is no world class coach but he gets the best out of his teams given time.
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