Quote ="barham red"Just how have you done in games with Thorman playing to games without Thorman playing this year?
I'll be the first to admit I haven't seen him as often as a lot but in the games I have (1st half v Leeds apart) he hasn't been the worst player on the pitch. Even in the Leeds game when he was taken off Hull got worse in the 2nd half.
Maybe he is pretty poor but if you watch most half backs behind a beaten pack they will look awful.'"
We have lost loads with him, and loads without him
Tbf, if you dont count the first 5 games which are obviously looking like some sort of miracle at the moment, we have only won 4 games. Iirc, Thorman played in two of them
