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| When he plays we play well.
Before he arrived what dire performances we watched.
Seemed to click with Gale and speed up the passing across the line.
Been in superb goalkeeping form.
Him and Jowitt are ideal at speeding up our attack.
Absolutely mystery to me as to why, barring injury he was not picked last night.
We reverted to type and we're slow across the park and reverted to turning back inside only to plod into an easy tackle
Absolute criminal selection last night in my opinion and might now have cost us our SL status.
That hill has become a whole lot steeper and put Cas back in the driving seat.
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| Have always said Lino wasn’t up to the job , sadly we’ve persevered with him and here we are
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| People again having a 'go' at Lino. Has it escaped their notice the lovely passes from him leading to our two tries . I thought the most ineffective half was Gale.
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| what does the guy have to do?
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| Agree that Dagger is needed on the field if only for his accuracy in the kicking department , too much of a maverick to be left kicking his heels on the sideline when it’s clear for all to see we have been woefully poor in the attacking department bar a few good games ,and revert back to one up rugby more often than not .
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| Three tries and no conversions. Had we been 12-6 up or 18-22 down the game would always be a contest. At 8-6 up we had a very slender lead and at 12-22 down we had too much to do.
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| I was sickened when I saw that Dagger wasn't even on the subs bench. We knew how well the Gale/Dagger combination worked from the Wigan game, so I thought that he would be available come the second half if we could see that the Gale/Lino pairing wasn't working. Dagger MUST be in the first thirteen for ALL the remaiing games.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I was sickened when I saw that Dagger wasn't even on the subs bench. We knew how well the Gale/Dagger combination worked from the Wigan game, so I thought that he would be available come the second half if we could see that the Gale/Lino pairing wasn't working. Dagger MUST be in the first thirteen for ALL the remaiing games.'"
Thought it was Kay Dagger combination against Wigan .thanks for putting me right
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| yes, you're correct mate. it was Kay. My mistake. Luke Gale was still off injured.
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| No prob Redscat, The main concern for me is ,that was the best performance from a half back pairing this season .Both these players are utility players ,And think it's sums up how poor are half back combination have been so season
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| Quote ="alegend"No prob Redscat, The main concern for me is ,that was the best performance from a half back pairing this season .Both these players are utility players ,And think it's sums up how poor are half back combination have been so season'"
And can I ad, think it shows, it does not matter how well you play .you do not keep the shirt ,you just get dropped for the first choice player ,as soon as he is fit.
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| Quote ="alegend"And can I ad, think it shows, it does not matter how well you play .you do not keep the shirt ,you just get dropped for the first choice player ,as soon as he is fit.'"
Dagger wasn't actually dropped.
He missed the game after Huddersfield because he was injured.
He just didn't get chosen to come back in.
I still wanted him in but just clarifying why.
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| Quote ="Borderboy"People again having a 'go' at Lino. Has it escaped their notice the lovely passes from him leading to our two tries . I thought the most ineffective half was Gale.'"
I picked up on the pass to the floor, missed tackle when they scored on the wing and dropped ball when we were through. 75% of our wins were without him in the team. Kay, Dagger and Gale should all be playing week in week out in my opinion.
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| GRIFFIN drops a ball ,they score ,LINEHAM drops a ball they score two try's in the last 5 minutes of first half. A forward makes a 40\50 yard run up the field in second half Lino was the only one who could be arst chasing after him .,he dropped the ball ,the but the pass was bad as he was been swung round by tackeler The try we did not get for a forward pass,in the second half by Lynn ,was set up by Lino .Question were was Gale .And Hood in the match just saw two kicks from Gale and did not see any go forward from the hooking role till KAY came on Just so easy to blame one played in one more shocking display .The main reason we are playing like we are is down to the COACHES who are way out of there depths and they have had enough cash this year to get it right but they are no were near good enough
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| Quote ="alegend"And can I ad, think it shows, it does not matter how well you play .you do not keep the shirt ,you just get dropped for the first choice player ,as soon as he is fit.'"
POP TART can I put it this way When we played Leeds we had the youngest team we have had out since the season started Think there was just four old forwards on the park ,Dave,Ashurst,Proctor, and Pitts The three-quarters line had Kershaw ,the young French winger and Croft The rest of the pack was made up of younger forward including the young French forward and Eseh .Dagger was at 6 That performance was good to watch ,plenty of speed in every thing you got to do in rugby to win and good performance from all 17 players in the squad.That team as been changed so much to bring back in all the old players , that apart from a few got us a 15 losing start to the season . We have just done a full circle apart from when we played the youngsters who were kicked out of the team as soon as the coach could get rid Seems the old players can play bad week in week out but if you are young one mistake and your out
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| Quote ="alegend"POP TART can I put it this way When we played Leeds we had the youngest team we have had out since the season started Think there was just four old forwards on the park ,Dave,Ashurst,Proctor, and Pitts The three-quarters line had Kershaw ,the young French winger and Croft The rest of the pack was made up of younger forward including the young French forward and Eseh .Dagger was at 6 That performance was good to watch ,plenty of speed in every thing you got to do in rugby to win and good performance from all 17 players in the squad.That team as been changed so much to bring back in all the old players , that apart from a few got us a 15 losing start to the season . We have just done a full circle apart from when we played the youngsters who were kicked out of the team as soon as the coach could get rid Seems the old players can play bad week in week out but if you are young one mistake and your out'"
I agree with you.
Except we also won a game or two with older ones.
I'm absolutely with you that the younger team is preferable.
But individually some of those players deserved their place too.
You can't honestly say you'd pick Smith and Dagger at halves instead of playing Gale surely? It worked against Leeds but that doesn't mean it will always work.
Against Leeds, Fifita, Battye, Ashurst, Pitts all played.
Since the Leeds game Hewitt, Smith, Franco, Salabio have not been available.
The next game we won was against Salford.
Lineham, Lyne, Gale, Bowden, Hood, Battye,Pitts, Ashurst, Kay and Fifita all played.
So it isn't just young v old. It's the right players and right balance.
Mash got loads of grief after playing Kay at 13 when we lost but don't seem to remember he was outstanding previously there.
My only point really is that I don't like it when people blindly criticise Mash using examples that just don't make sense....not you
I of course agree with you that a younger team is better and that our squad has too many old players in key positions, but imagine the grief Mash would get if he played the team from Leeds game as his starting lineup all season.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree with you.
Except we also won a game or two with older ones.
I'm absolutely with you that the younger team is preferable.
But individually some of those players deserved their place too.
You can't honestly say you'd pick Smith and Dagger at halves instead of playing Gale surely? It worked against Leeds but that doesn't mean it will always work.
Against Leeds, Fifita, Battye, Ashurst, Pitts all played.
Since the Leeds game Hewitt, Smith, Franco, Salabio have not been available.
The next game we won was against Salford.
Lineham, Lyne, Gale, Bowden, Hood, Battye,Pitts, Ashurst, Kay and Fifita all played.
So it isn't just young v old. It's the right players and right balance.
Mash got loads of grief after playing Kay at 13 when we lost but don't seem to remember he was outstanding previously there.
My only point really is that I don't like it when people blindly criticise Mash using examples that just don't make sense....not you
I of course agree with you that a younger team is better and that our squad has too many old players in key positions, but imagine the grief Mash would get if he played the team from Leeds game as his starting lineup all season.'"
Think we would have won more matches with the team that started against Leeds.from what I saw last Friday Can not understand how Proctor is in the team.plays about 15\20 minutes then he is gone it is like playing a game with a sub injured Think the Gale bubble as burst was poor at Hull and against Cas, Hood is one more, that I can not see what he brings to the team he was shocking against Cas, Will get shot down for this but Kay as got to be one of the most consistent performers this season (.and came within a foot of scoring a try with a great dash against Cas) should be above Hood in the 9 role .Time to give the youngster a chance it is not working with the old player .Just for the record I rate Dagger, but I do defend Lino, because he gets the stick when there are players having worse games,and hiding on the pitch
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| Quote ="18th Man"I picked up on the pass to the floor, missed tackle when they scored on the wing and dropped ball when we were through. 75% of our wins were without him in the team. Kay, Dagger and Gale should all be playing week in week out in my opinion.'"
Added to a couple of sets he lost direction and ended up running it into oncoming forwards. His kicking game isn’t great either, it’s pretty much a high kick to the left defending corner.
As much as I aren’t happy with his form I will 1000% cheer him on if he pulls the shirt on.
I would go with Gale and Dagger though. Seems more balanced.
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| Can he be selected against HKR
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Can he be selected against HKR'"
Why wouldn't he?
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Can he be selected against HKR'"
He's our player not a loanee so can't see why not. I did read that James Batchelor was having some surgery on his elbow and would miss a few games. Hopefully they will save him for the playoffs.
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