After reading a column in the league express by Martyn Sadler suggesting that Lewis Murphy is tipped to join st helens,
Due to the fact he has turned down an upgrade to his contract. How do we expect to compete in super league when letting
our better players move on, surely Mr Minnards & Co should at all costs try to keep hold of Lewis (stop penny pinching).

By “penny pinching” do you mean running the club in a financially viable way?

Do we know he's turned down a new contract?
IF he has and his heart is not at Wakefield then he won't be the first fans favourite to leave, will he?
I like Lewis and I hope he stays, but my take on spectacular wingers is that I'd personally rather see a good team effort winning games than relying on wingers, as we did with Tom Johnstone.
Oh, and for all the time we had Tom, most of it we struggled, so not the end of Trinity being a good team if Murphy left.

I read Sadlers article this morning with a disappointed air… what used to be a good informed publication now just repeats the social media memes …

MC spoke to the current situation with Murphy… offer was made on contract extension … rejected… no further discussion … Murphy still has 12 months left on contract…

There may have been fuelled media speculation about St Helens being interested, but Trinity are not a selling club anymore and quashed those rumours

So Officially any interest must be though the club, but there has been no formal contact made from Saints… any other type of contact would be against the rules of the competition.

I find it sad that a potentially positive article is turned into a torrent of speculation and click bait… I cancelled my standing order for league express, but they keep sending me the newspaper until my yearly fee runs out…

Today reminded me as to why I cancelled!!

Have you bought a news season ticket, or are you penny pinching? Happy new year to you.

I assume you have bought the shares on offer at £50k....or are you penny pinching?

What would you chose ,a board that as wiped of a 2 million pounds det and are spending over 12 million pounds on the ground and were the only club in S Lnot to ,be thousands in det or Lewis Murphy .Even with Murphy in the team we finished 3 bottom At present he is not in the same class as T J .and as a long way to go to get there .We have a hard season this season's and need a team that will give 100%and pull together If a player is not happy get rid one bad apple in a squad can do damage

Same for me cancelling

Well the chances are mc has offered the same deal not improved

If you look at the issue with the two players in limbo I would very much like to bet you are wrong

I dont think its a case of penny pinching at all. Its the fact Saints have sold him the dream and thats something as a club we are unable to offer right now.
But as I have said before we are not short of wingers and will survive without him. However as a club , i dont think we should allow him to play us along. We should have a grown up conversation . If its the end, put him on the market and at least get compensation.

I can't agree with that after Murphy's meteoric rise to fame. There's a limit however to what we can pay.
I bet the terms are pro rata to what TJ was offered when at a similar age but he was different, his heart was with the club. Perhaps Murphy's isn't.

It's strange that so many are having a go for us potentially losing one of our young players but, the very reason that Saints have a vacancy, is that one of their own, very talented players, is leaving them.
It's just the grim reality of professional sport.

I really hope that Murphy stays though

If Saints have approached him which is very doubtful as he is on contract and in theory cannot approach until May. Clubs can let the unseetling be done by the media which appears to be the ongoing issue here.

If Murphy stays beyond his current contact all well and good , if not we move on without him .we simply Cannot be held ransom by anyone especially in this financial/economic downturn that the country is facing . If the lad is adamant he wants away I’d be tempted to sell him rather than let him walk for nothing at the end of his contract ,no good having anyone at the club if they see their future elsewhere . We’ll never be in a position to keep players when the big clubs flash the cash , but I’d much rather the club be on a financial footing than paying contracts beyond our means no matter who it is , including Murphy . As I look at ,it if he goes it gives someone else a chance to stake a claim .

Players come and players go. I remember when Neil Fox left for Bradford and how sick I felt. Murphy who has only played a few games is a promising winger but he's no Neil Fox, we'll move on without him.

"Upgraded contract" not give you a clue?

It’s not a secret that St Helens have been after him since he scored a bagful of tries against them at their place and his reported refusal to sign a new contract would suggest he wants the bigger club and higher profile games. He may also have looked at TJs career and decided he doesn’t want to spend five years being a big fish in a small pond. He’s also a Huddersfield lad who’s only been with Trinity for about 3 years so there’s no massive emotional loyalty to deal with on his part

Given the current strength of the wing position and assuming Sts want him now, I’d take a transfer fee and let him go

Upgraded contract bullcrap extra pennies that's it fgs

The only thing the club needs to concentrate on is staying in Super League because failure to do so would be a disaster despite what some might hope. When the new IMG ratings come into effect being out of SL would mean that we will lose a major benefit because we may have a partly developed ground but I am sure the current SL clubs will be favoured whatever they may say.
The only way to give us the best chance is to have the best available squad. We can be prudent with our finances which is laudable but sometimes you need to loosen the purse strings because the club need to weigh the loss of income from being relegated. I believe that relegation will also make all contracts void so the 25 years we have survived in SL will be wasted and our chances of getting a license will go with it.
With regards Murphy we need to look at the big picture he is young and like TJ an indication of our determination to progress. I wonder what happened to the “why should I leave Trinity” when TJ was asked if his ambitions would be better fulfilled at another club.

To show ambition the club need to tie down Murphy imo. He’s a hot property and it would show a statement of intent if we can persuade him to stay. HKR have been doing this with their younger players and these are the kind of players you build a squad around. Obviously he’s nowhere near a 100k player yet but he’s worth investing in because his talent is unreal, I believe he’ll surpass Johnstone I honestly think he’s that good

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So what would you do if he wants £100k to stay, if he isn't a £100k a year player yet?

Make your mind up. Is it extra pennies or not upgraded?

can you remember Gareth Ellis ? he went to Leeds for less than he was offered at Wakey. With some players it can be more than money. I know we have offered a very good contract but he is not accepting it so it must be something we can't offer.

Plus does anyone honestly think he would turn us down if he had no other options on the table. Anyone who thinks Saints have not approached him is either under 4yrs old or living in cloud Cuckoo land. There is no way anyone can accuse MC or the club for not trying their utmost.