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| Please Club is there any way you can go back and do the whole North stand. This is worth a few wins a season on its own. It really has become a power plant. I know it won't make the cash like the East stand but just look and listen.
PS: I was late arriving and some brilliant stewards got me into the west terrace as the North was capacity, well done club.
Hope this is OK to do, bit juddery but you get the gist. If anyone can do it for me I'll upload them the mp4 with sound which is even better and they can add it to this.
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| It was great to be in there, especially at the end when Fifita and Arona came into the crowd.
We've been rocking in there a few times this season and whilst fully appreciating that cash is (very) tight, to wait 50 years for an upgrade and then to end up with only half the stand getting done will be a travesty and yes, the loss to the club, in terms of vocal support, could be huge.
Btw, this is not intended to be negative at all but, it could be another 50 years before another chance comes around and many of us wont be here .
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| I don’t really understand the plans, if I read it correctly the terracing isn’t going as far back as initially planned, are we assuming this is just cost cutting? If so I wonder how much this has saved cost wise? It just seems tiny considering the overall plan.
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| We also arrived a little later than normal and had to walk round to the western terrace. The experience was pretty awful in there. Surrounded by away fans, appalling view. Without wishing to put a downer on yesterday’s win, I was seriously ****** off. Possible re-think on season ticket purchases for us.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I don’t really understand the plans, if I read it correctly the terracing isn’t going as far back as initially planned, are we assuming this is just cost cutting? If so I wonder how much this has saved cost wise? It just seems tiny considering the overall plan.'"
Have to agree mate.
It's not the construction method, I get that. It's where it stops. It doesn't even reach the top of the lower section of the north-west part of the stand and that I just don't get.
If it just did that it would be ok for now but as it is it's a total dogs dinner.
I don't know the budgets and construction constraints and I accept it may be all we can get but it still doesn't stop it being very disappointing.
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| It's games like yesterday s that show the importance of the home support. For some reason I never thought the result would be anything other than a Wakey win.it felt great to acctualy attend a game expecting a win not hoping for one.
Great end to the seasons home games.
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| In an ideal world once the East stand is done the whole northstand should be flattened and a proper stand built (obviously money is an issue)
But on the blueprint with what is already there a real 'Kop' would be the one to go at.
Flatten the whole thing - right back to the 'ginnel' and have a stand with a proper concourse underneath. Obviously blue sky thinking.
Even so future plans should be put in place to make use of the tree's area/wasteland. Level it off and have bars (shed's) selling beer and food stalls - will sure get people spending money before kick off
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| Quote ="vastman"Have to agree mate.
It's not the construction method, I get that. It's where it stops. It doesn't even reach the top of the lower section of the north-west part of the stand and that I just don't get.
If it just did that it would be ok for now but as it is it's a total dogs dinner.
I don't know the budgets and construction constraints and I accept it may be all we can get but it still doesn't stop it being very disappointing.'" if money is short why can't the north stand be left for now and the west terrace be done
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| Taken from the planning documents this morning: "This would see the terrace area reduced so as not to extend all the way to the back of the existing terrace. This change would also see the platform area previously proposed for food offerings removed. Through discussions with the applicants structural engineer it is understood this amendment is required for budgetary reasons and also to achieve a slightly higher seating position"
It's a shame really as the North stand is where all the atmosphere and noise is created and reducing the capacity will only make this worse. I appreciate the East stand will take priority as this will generate income outside of match days and I know the current market is volatile for all building materials but I cant help but think this is a mistake. I work as a QS so I fully understand that there are budgets to stick to and what would have cost X 6-12 months ago now costs Y but if we are planning to go back and add the additional terracing / platform area at a later date it will cost a significant amount more to re-mobilise etc.
Just a thought but I'm sure the club could be a bit more pro-active and suggest some kind of fund raiser to help generate the additional funding needed to complete the works? I'm sure there are plenty of fans who would help and the food / beverages sold on the platform would only go back into the club anyway..
At the end of the day I'll be happy with whatever we get and I for one cant wait see the main East stand complete. Up the trin!!
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if money is short why can't the north stand be left for now and the west terrace be done'"
Why?
It's the away terrace and has no cover and a tiny capacity.
The North terrace has a much bigger capacity, has a roof, better access, it's an no brainer for me.
Also it wouldn't cost that much less with nothing in return.
Of course that's just my opinion, but you did ask.
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| Enclose the back of the stand so all the noise goes towards the pitch, like the stand on Wheldon Rd.
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| Quote ="wakefield1990"Taken from the planning documents this morning: "This would see the terrace area reduced so as not to extend all the way to the back of the existing terrace. This change would also see the platform area previously proposed for food offerings removed. Through discussions with the applicants structural engineer it is understood this amendment is required for budgetary reasons [uand also to achieve a slightly higher seating position[/u"
It's a shame really as the North stand is where all the atmosphere and noise is created and reducing the capacity will only make this worse. I appreciate the East stand will take priority as this will generate income outside of match days and I know the current market is volatile for all building materials but I cant help but think this is a mistake. I work as a QS so I fully understand that there are budgets to stick to and what would have cost X 6-12 months ago now costs Y but if we are planning to go back and add the additional terracing / platform area at a later date it will cost a significant amount more to re-mobilise etc.
Just a thought but I'm sure the club could be a bit more pro-active and suggest some kind of fund raiser to help generate the additional funding needed to complete the works? I'm sure there are plenty of fans who would help and the food / beverages sold on the platform would only go back into the club anyway..
At the end of the day I'll be happy with whatever we get and I for one cant wait see the main East stand complete. Up the trin!!'"
What does the above highlighted part, mean/refer to?
Does it mean 'seating', as bums on, or seating in a technical building sense? (that I know nowt about)
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| Rather than scrimp on the North Stand I'd rather they use the money to do the full spec on the East Stand. This half a job isn't really benefiting anyone.
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| Quote ="phe13"What does the above highlighted part, mean/refer to?
Does it mean 'seating', as bums on, or seating in a technical building sense? (that I know nowt about)
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It's nothing technical, it will refer to the standing position rather than seated. If you look at the original plans the existing terrace was to be re-graded however the latest drawing amendments seem to show new terrace to be constructed over existing terrace. Not sure about the comment around achieving a higher position as I don't see an issue with the current terracing from a viewing perspective. Makes me think there is bigger problem with the ground make up in the north stand than first feared.. who knows..
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Rather than scrimp on the North Stand I'd rather they use the money to do the full spec on the East Stand.
This half a job isn't really benefiting anyone.'"
Agree with this, the half stand will look a right dogs dinner.
Rather have it full as it is now than half capacity with half a new yob.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Agree with this, the half stand will look a right dogs dinner.
Rather have it full as it is now than half capacity with half a new yob.'"
You can't do that I'm afraid. The existing terrace has had had its capacity cut yet again by the Council as it's considered unsafe, that's what the wristbands are for - nothing to do with the East stand being shut as such.
One way or another it has to be upgraded on safety grounds.
I have no issue with the new system, in fact it's better imho, it's where it stops, leaving a huge void behind it - it will look awful and will obviously reduce the potential capacity. Only plus is that it should be fairly easy to extend it right to the back if money becomes available later.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if money is short why can't the north stand be left for now and the west terrace be done'"
I agree id rather just leave it as it is instead of the new plans.
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| Quote ="charlie"I agree id rather just leave it as it is instead of the new plans.'"
You can't, it's been condemned or close to. All I'm not sure about is the time we have left before they will shut it completely, could be now.
Much as I don't like the new proposal that's a bit cutting your nose off.....
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if money is short why can't the north stand be left for now and the west terrace be done'"
The idea of redevelopment of North Stand was to increase the capacity to 3500, it is currently reduced to 1500, due to council safety restrictions. There hasn’t been any indication of what the Stand capacity will be with the latest reduction of at least 50% of terrace improvements.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if money is short why can't the north stand be left for now and the west terrace be done'"
Precisely, you are bang on there mopsey, this so called improvement is not that in my eyes. We would gain more by leaving it as it is and use the money elsewhere. Wish the club would re consider this, because the original plan was fine but this latest amendment gains absolutely nothing.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Precisely, you are bang on there mopsey, this so called improvement is not that in my eyes. We would gain more by leaving it as it is and use the money elsewhere. Wish the club would re consider this, because the original plan was fine but this latest amendment gains absolutely nothing.'"
It's not bang on PB. Because I was informed last night by a reasonable source that the North stand has had its capacity reduced again and further reductions are likely. It could even be shut in the worst scenario.
So you just cant leave it as it is and there is simply no way the West terrace could be configured to take more than 1,400, then you'd really have no capacity and virtually not cover.
Thought I'd sent you the proposed plans for the West terrace? Even that paired down version with a basic roof would now cost double, estimate about 1.5 million.
The fact is that ugly as it is the western terrace is structurally sound, the North isn't.
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| Quote ="vastman"It's not bang on PB. Because I was informed last night by a reasonable source that the North stand has had its capacity reduced again and further reductions are likely. It could even be shut in the worst scenario.
So you just cant leave it as it is and there is simply no way the West terrace could be configured to take more than 1,400, then you'd really have no capacity and virtually not cover.
Thought I'd sent you the proposed plans for the West terrace? Even that paired down version with a basic roof would now cost double, estimate about 1.5 million.
The fact is that ugly as it is the western terrace is structurally sound, the North isn't.'"
Yes. Even without knowing anything about architecture or building, you can tell there are lots of parts of the North Stand no longer fit for purpose and edging on not safe.
Needs whatever changes we can afford.
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| why not leave the pitch for now and use that money?
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER62"why not leave the pitch for now and use that money?'"
Because the pitch will generate money.
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