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Rugby League supporters have been invited by IMG to contribute to the ‘reimagining Rugby League’ consultation currently being conducted.
A survey has been launched today (below) through the RFL and Super League digital channels.
https://endeavoranalytics.qualtrics.com ... SEC2qDdP8y
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Rugby League supporters have been invited by IMG to contribute to the ‘reimagining Rugby League’ consultation currently being conducted.
A survey has been launched today (below) through the RFL and Super League digital channels.
https://endeavoranalytics.qualtrics.com ... SEC2qDdP8y
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| Done my bit.
The 10-10 with promotion and relegation is part of the survey. I'm sure that will mean 9 strong-ish clubs and one weak one, rather than the 11 strong-ish clubs and one weak one that we have now. The only way it could work is by raising the lower league salary cap and spreading the cash around. That isn't going to happen.
I've no problem generally with the idea, as theoretically the league below will be a stronger one by having better lower league clubs in it, but the finances dictate one season up and then down again, and it'll be impossible to get investment for bi-annual championship rugby.
For me, it should be 14 teams, but a higher salary cap and higher overseas quota to get more talent over here, with the end of loop fixtures.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Done my bit.
The 10-10 with promotion and relegation is part of the survey. I'm sure that will mean 9 strong-ish clubs and one weak one, rather than the 11 strong-ish clubs and one weak one that we have now. The only way it could work is by raising the lower league salary cap and spreading the cash around. That isn't going to happen.
I've no problem generally with the idea, as theoretically the league below will be a stronger one by having better lower league clubs in it, but the finances dictate one season up and then down again, and it'll be impossible to get investment for bi-annual championship rugby.
For me, it should be 14 teams, but a higher salary cap and higher overseas quota to get more talent over here, with the end of loop fixtures.'"
Yes, I’ve completed the survey, but I opted for 14 team with more funding provided. I thought the 10x10 question was significant because that’s the option that’s been pushed for months now
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Done my bit.
The 10-10 with promotion and relegation is part of the survey. I'm sure that will mean 9 strong-ish clubs and one weak one, rather than the 11 strong-ish clubs and one weak one that we have now. The only way it could work is by raising the lower league salary cap and spreading the cash around. That isn't going to happen.
I've no problem generally with the idea, as theoretically the league below will be a stronger one by having better lower league clubs in it, but the finances dictate one season up and then down again, and it'll be impossible to get investment for bi-annual championship rugby.
For me, it should be 14 teams, but a higher salary cap and higher overseas quota to get more talent over here, with the end of loop fixtures.'"
Totally agree, the 2 x 10 structure will further damage the game.
This has been muted for quite some time and is the top few clubs protecting their slice of the TV monies
If it comes to pass that we have 2 x 10, with Trinity forcibly relegated, I will be done
Pre SL there were 16 top flight English sides and if we change to a 2 x 10 structure, there may only be 8 ??
I enjoy the trips to France but, far from Super League being the saviour of the sport, we are further behind other sports and in particular, Union, than we have been in my life time.
The influence of thee big 4/5 is ok for those clubs but, screwing the rest of us over and our inability to make the sport attractive enough to encourage new supporters is a crying shame, we have to make RL and attending games more attractive to the younger generation.
It's positive that a survey has been drafted and sent to the supporters for feedback but, once again, the agenda seems to be almost settled before we start (2 x 10).
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| Done mine i said officials need to be better 14 team sl with no loop fuxtures and promotion and relagation said i dont feel french clubs offer anything apart from taking moneies out of british game and clubs should be assisted with development of youth
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| Completed - 14 team SL. No to France, keep promotion and relegation. Standard of refereeing and disiplinary a concern
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Completed - 14 team SL. No to France, keep promotion and relegation. Standard of refereeing and disiplinary a concern'"
Very similar here
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| As I’ve put on the survey I like the look of a 14 team super league and didn’t put thumbs up to the 10-10 format and also said that the grass roots of our game need growing stronger ,encouraging more kids to get into the sport .
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| Done it. Given my 4 peneth 14 team comp, French teams bring nothing to my club.
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| Yep...same here.
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| Looking at these few replys it seems where all in same boat lets hope thats the majority of fans think alike
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| 14 teams. no loop and keep magic.
Yes to Yorkshire v the dark side.
no french.
better refs and discipline.
forever changing rules - six again, golden point
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| I’m really hoping IMG listen to what the fans want. SL quality for me has gone to an all time low for quality. As a league and county we are so far behind the NRL and Australia it’s sickening. The polarisation that has happened over the last 5 years is astonishing. How can the threat of relegation year in year out be good for clubs trying to blood local talent to help not only improve the team but the nation too. Put Catalans into the mix who are a retirement home for ex Rep players (non French) and the league is bolloxed. You only have to look at the NRL and see what no relegation did to say North Queensland who have been atrocious, all of a sudden a nice batch of youngsters come through and boom they’re killing it. Same goes to a lesser extent the broncos.
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| Yes I've said the same stuff too
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"14 teams. no loop and keep magic.
Yes to Yorkshire v the dark side.
no french.
better refs and discipline.
forever changing rules - six again, golden point'"
That pretty much sums up my picks
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| I said 16 no loop
Ok for French if they are growing the grass roots in France
No 10 x 10 two tier SL (such restrictive thinking would end me as a fan of UK footy)
Yes to 9s comps
No to Yorks v lancs
No to cricket like gimmicks
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| I winder what the fans of the "big" clubs are saying ?
Tbf, cutting the league from 16 to 14 to 12 has done nothing to improve quality and where do we go after it's been cut again, down to 10 ?
Let's face it, the only reason for reducing the numbers is to allow those in SL to maintain a similar level of funding from Sky, with a reduced pot. The so called "driving up quality" is a smoke screen.
The million dollar question is just how we make the game more appealing to those outside the heartlands and to more people inside the heartlands.
There are no quick fixes or silver bullets and there needs to be a long term plan for growth across all areas of the game, from junior, community and right up to the pro game.
Hopefully, the success of Channel 4 this season, shows that with a bit of a revamp, the game can at least gain some TV viewers, which should help to increase TV monies.
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| I went with 14 teams and keep magic, 27 games, cant stand the two 10's idea.
Improve the player pool by changing the quota rule from 7 non fed trained to 7 non eligible for England/france by birth country/parent or grandparent birth country. An example would be victor Radley, not that he would come, but he's going to play for England through his dad being english, but would still count on the overseas quota under the current rules, id change that. I was going to say eligible for all home nations but there arnt any clubs in SL from any atm, so bit pointless
Better salary cap exemptions for home grown players
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| Thought the question re the challenge cup was interesting about it being a straight knock out comp. I've said no to loop fixtures but if the CC became a word cup/champions league structure that could work.
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| Said pretty much the same as you Barnsley
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| Have always said likes of Leeds et al will only be happy when it’s a 5 team league , playing leeds saints hull Wigan Warrington playing each other 4 times a year no relegation promotion in a format like baseball if we go to ten 2 of Salford Wakefield and cas would effectively be relegated into,a in funded second division semi professional game - and in 3 years time they’d be talking about an 8 team league
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| I said I wanted Franchising back.
Prefer 14 teams.
And a fixed international calendar.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Have always said likes of Leeds et al will only be happy when it’s a 5 team league , playing leeds saints hull Wigan Warrington playing each other 4 times a year no relegation promotion in a format like baseball if we go to ten 2 of Salford Wakefield and cas would effectively be relegated into,a in funded second division semi professional game - and in 3 years time they’d be talking about an 8 team league'"
8 then 6, than 2 and then Wigan and Leeds left paying with themselves every week. I hope that I worded that correctly.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"8 then 6, than 2 and then Wigan and Leeds left paying with themselves every week. I hope that I worded that correctly.'"
Can you imagine if there were 10 teams and constant TV loop games between the likes of Wigan/saints Leeds. It’s bad enough now. I always thought the league was better with 14 teams in and no loop fixtures. Also, six again that was brought in for Covid needs to be dropped fast. I like the idea of it but as a spectator it’s terrible. It’s so inconsistently applied by officials it’s more frustrating. Catalans game a prime example. Trinity got penalised for holding down yet Catalans seemed to be allowed an eternity. There just seems to be no consistency in it.
I do believe though that moving to 14 teams would be correct. Though I would also reduce the championship and league 1 leagues to fewer teams to create a comp of higher quality.
Promotion to SL should happen next 2 seasons to raise to 14 and during that time no relegation should happen. Also once the SL reaches 14 that year should be a no promotion/relegation closed year to allow the 14 teams to build/promote youth and get ready for a highly competitive comp the following year when promotion/relegation is put back on the table.
Also academy should be compulsory and there should be some central funding ringfenced for each team that can only be used on academy to help grow that side of the game and bring more participation and quality to the league medium to long term.
Just a few things I’d like to see.
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| But if six again is inconsistently applied, why would a penalty be better? Its the same, just slower.
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