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| Bowden in.
Right centre is still the issue to me.
Batch or Croft.
Not Minns
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| Quote ="PopTart"Bowden in.
Right centre is still the issue to me.
Batch or Croft.
Not Minns'"
I would suggest Batchelor because Toulouse will put Armitage against Croft and he is not strong enough to stop him.
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| It’s going to be warm so I’d start with a big pack and take as much out of Toulouse as possible then look to speed up the pace by bringing on some more mobility in the pack.
Batchelor to right centre where he can cause trouble with his size, shore up the defence and be a support for Evans
Shame Taufua isn’t already here as a right side with Tanginoa, Taufua & Evans has some size and power about it
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I would suggest Batchelor because Toulouse will put Armitage against Croft and he is not strong enough to stop him.'"
Got to agree. Since Lyne has been out the only player to play well at right centre is Batch.
Team pretty much picks itself but on a hard pitch in sunny weather I hope we give a nippy 9 like Bowes a shot from the bench.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It’s going to be warm so I’d start with a big pack and take as much out of Toulouse as possible then look to speed up the pace by bringing on some more mobility in the pack.
Batchelor to right centre where he can cause trouble with his size, shore up the defence and be a support for Evans
Shame Taufua isn’t already here as a right side with Tanginoa, Taufua & Evans has some size and power about it
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Evans
Batchelor
Hall
Murphy
Miller
Lino
Fifita
Bowes
Whitbread
Tanginoa
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Arona
Hood
Crowther
Pitts
Bowden'"
I'd go with same players but I'd have Tanginoa off the bench and Arona at prop.
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| I’d interchange Walker and Bowes at 9 - Hood nowhere near good enough to deserve a starting spot.
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| Also a bit concerned Minns is back in the 21 man squad another one not good enough for this level.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd go with same players but I'd have Tanginoa off the bench and Arona at prop.'"
I don’t think Arona is a prop, he’s a middle, subtle difference but I think his bast form has always been from 13
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| Cannot see the point in naming Minns in the squad. Willie would be crazy to risk playing him ever again let only in this crucial game.
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| Batch has to play right centre - we are way too weak down that side and need a good defender - Lino and croft together is a shambled toulouse will target that side, just like wigan did
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| Agree with comments about batch hes be a miss at 13 but neddz must and unless he does him for speed armatyge wont hat find it as easy to break through batch as croft
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| The only thing about Batch at centre is, we'll need his fitness in the middle and when he's in the pack, he is the cover for injuries in the backs.
Now admittedly with TJ and Gaskell not playing it is less likely but still.
I'm undecided.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd go with same players but I'd have Tanginoa off the bench and Arona at prop.[/qu
Why play Arona at prop when you have an out and out prop in Butler in the squad, what's he done wrong to be omitted?
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| I’d go with…..
Jowitt
Evans
Batchelor
Hall
Murphy
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Fifita
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Butler
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| Quote ="1315trinity"
Butler has proved he’s not what we need for a relegation dog fight.
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| For me
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| Quote ="PopTart"For me
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Batch
Hall
Murphy
Miller
Lino
Fifita
Hood
Arona
Ashurst
Pitts
Crowther
Bowes
Bowden
Whitbread
Tanginoa'" spot on for me !
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| Here’s my line up. Can’t see it being much different. Crowther should start at 13 as he is a very strong defender and Pitts should move there after 25 minutes to allow Tanginoa to attack the right channels in second quarter after some fatigue has set in. Crowther can come back on for Pitts in the second half then.
I feel we would benefit from Bowes playing Saturday. On a fast pitch it would be more beneficial having a nippy 9 than Crowther filling in again. Batch has to play at centre.
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Batchelor
Hall
Murphy
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Got to agree. Since Lyne has been out the only player to play well at right centre is Batch.
Team pretty much picks itself but on a hard pitch in sunny weather I hope we give a nippy 9 like Bowes a shot from the bench.'"
Young bowes had a stormer against saints earlier in the season , even caught out the best in the business and gave Roby the runaround. Very nippy at the play the ball and tackles above his weight .
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| Quote ="1315trinity"
Completely agree - and Butler was solid against Wigan.
The thing with Butler is that he isn’t flashy. He doesn’t do anything special but he is reliable. Don’t quote me on this, but I don’t think he’s missed a single tackle in all the games he’s played for Wakefield. He’s a solid defender and although he doesn’t make meters like Fifita when carrying, his yardage isn’t bad.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the people slating Butler and don’t believe he should be in the squad or isn’t SL standard don’t understand RL as well as they think they do.
I like the lad and think with more game time will develop into an even better player for us. I think the competition for game time with the addition of Bowden will help with his development and drive too.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Young bowes had a stormer against saints earlier in the season , even caught out the best in the business and gave Roby the runaround. Very nippy at the play the ball and tackles above his weight .'"
Yes I remember him having 2/3 hood games then strangely getting dropped. He then had a stormer in reserves. Hope he gets a shot.
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| Quote ="SMB93"
Agree.
There was absolutely no point in signing Butler if we aren't going to play him.
He played well against Wigan running in hard and tackling well. He's exactly what we need in a relegation fight.
Willie will decide of course, but my props would be Fifita, Bowden, Butler and Whitbread (and let's get him signed up for longer)
I agree with others Bowes needs to play. He and Crowther for hooker and Hood to miss out for me.
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| Quote ="Willzay"
Had a good game against wigan, you need to start to give players a chance.
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| Quote ="SMB93"The thing with Butler is that he isn’t flashy. He doesn’t do anything special but he is reliable. Don’t quote me on this, but I don’t think he’s missed a single tackle in all the games he’s played for Wakefield. He’s a solid defender and although he doesn’t make meters like Fifita when carrying, his yardage isn’t bad.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the people slating Butler and don’t believe he should be in the squad or isn’t SL standard don’t understand RL as well as they think they do.
I like the lad and think with more game time will develop into an even better player for us. I think the competition for game time with the addition of Bowden will help with his development and drive too.
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Sorry, I know you said don't quote me but I thought I'd look and see if you were right.
As far as I can tell from Superleague website he has played 3 games for us.
Hull - 14 tackles made, 1 Missed
Salford - 10 tackles made, 2 Missed
Wigan - 11 tackles made, 0 Missed
So he has missed a few but not many, and given that he's not played many minutes in those games then I don't think those stats are bad tbh
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