First I say. I like Willie Poching,, however, who ever becomes the next coach/ menager, needs to understand the players & teams mentality, they have a history of badly letting down the coach & supporters & eventually causing his demise no matter who that person is.
Our next coach needs to change attitude of the players, improve their ability, he much more professional whilst maintaining a high level of fitness. Finally, the new coach needs to understand transition of the academy players into the first team & not just send them out to championship teams of div one teams. Other clubs are more successful than us in final developments of their academy players.
I do hope as a club we don't just pick a nice guy who is easy to get on with & is cheap, I would rather pay a decent coach - yes even if he is expensive & do without a mediocre player & pay a proper wave to a first line coach who we would have to back up & not let players poor attitude dictate the club on the field.
We may only have this one chance to get this right for the season after the next season of changes !
Plenty to think about & quantify ?
Up the Trin.

Totally agree.
Today was down to the players.
Extremely poor commitment in the tackle.
Poor decision making when deciding when to run or when to pass.
Far too many players running sidewards or passing without even moving forward.
There were gaps galore today and few players were willing to run into those gaps and choose to pass without even committing the opposition.
Next year a big stick is required to get this team into shape.
Too many players just not good enough.
Who ever is coach has to get this team super fit to compete at this level.
Sentiment must be thrown out of the window and the door shown to those who
can't hack it.
Today was an absolute embarrassment and we were totally out played by a championship side despite some woeful decisions from the referee costing us tries.
I went today expecting a party only to find a team that had hung up their boots for the season.

What's your plan? Whack the sh*t ones over the head with the stick?!

Next year could be our hardest yet, with a possibilty more than 1 team going down.so who ever comes in has to be the right choice. I think willie will get it im still undecided if i want him to but he is the easy choice and cheap too(esp has for some mad reason chester going to be still getting paid)
That said who ever the coach is still has alot of players he will be left with who are not good enough no more and players who will be constantly injured so there hands will be tied behind there back

My heart is with poaching ,being an old boy but my head is with McDermott and that is simply down to my perceived stricter regime and structures that he will bring to the club as well as consistency on the field.which on today’s performance is a necessity going forwards. Next season may well be a watershed for this club if any of the rumours are to be believed ,and for the greater good of the club we certainly don’t want or need to be in the same table position this time next season .

It's not the best position to be in, the clubs put any new coach behind the black ball.
Any new man coming in will need to take over very quickly and be able to sign players he wants.
Recruitment's already underway and may not be to the liking of any new man.
Its all a bit of a mess.

Poaching is fine with me.
I don't think Mcdermott will bring more.

We have won 4 out of six games under WP, we can all agree that the team is playing better. The game today had banana skin written all over it, yes we should have won on paper but not on the field today. The important thing is that we can at least prepare for next season.
I am not sure that bringing a different style of coach will benefit our squad. It is like all teams a player signs for Wakefield not expecting silverware, hoping but not expecting. We have always been made up of players with a variety of skill levels and I am sure WP will know how each responds best. To have a coach like McDermott may not be the best suited and could quite easily result in the team going backwards. It did not work too well with B Smith after a short time. These type of coaches work best at the clubs with all round quality squads. I am afraid that became Chester’s problem he began to criticise the team or individuals in public and the squad cohesion quickly began to disintegrate.
The bottom line is that the coach we need must be a Wakefield type coach not a StHelens type.

Never mind lads, at least you got Linehams antics to look forward to next season.
No wonder Westermans cleared off

WP has done well so far it’s the players that need to be criticised.

Those consistently under performing need to be shown the door. I know that may be easier said than done but it’s an ageing squad and a large number are out of contract at the end of the season…..

The OP and the following poster clearly have little understanding of human nature or the real world of team sports.

The reason Trinity along with a number of clubs lose games they should in theory win is simple, the players are not good enough.

Players like people are not born equal and in the case of RL the best don’t end up at Trinity. Our players don’t play deliberately badly. They play badly because they only have so many good games in them.

I admit there are other factors at work but our players just lack that core professionalism that exists at a club like Saints, bough even Saints can have a wobbly.

If WP gets the job or someone else does I hope the OP is a little less premature in his OTT reaction, it is one poor game that led to a narrow defeat!

It will take at least one or perhaps two seasons to undo the damage don in recent seasons before we can be confident of winning games like yesterday’s. We were getting there a few seasons back but now we are yet again some way off.

There is no magic wand, just hard work, good scouting and a willingness to get rid of players who no longer fit.

We may well even go backwards before going forward. The Hull game will be a good guide as to where we are. A good show in that game will show that the first vital ingredient has returned, resilience.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Who’s the OP

McDermott is a poor coach stuck in the past IMO, he would ruin Trinity.

Poching has the job for me.

Opening poster, standard forum abbreviation.

Thank You I did not know but they do say “every day is a school day”

Your welcome.

I think one thing that yesterday's result proved, was that while things have improved a little, there is still a long way to go. Personally, for me, whilst I like Willie, I do think a stronger character needs to come in from the outside and put their stamp on things. Not just a decent coach, but someone who can change the culture and make them more professional in their training methods, otherwise I think we will be regularly having these issues. Sadly, there aren't many of these type of coaches, and they usually come at a cost

Let's give the players a break.

The end of a long hard season.

A generally narrow loss as per Cas game.

It's disappointing but overall it's been a good end to the season, especially if we beat Hull.

Let's not get carried away with one loss.

Lets face it, we've played better rugby in the last six games (yesterday's 2nd half excepted) than we did in most if not all of the games before that.
Standouts for me were beating wire and dirty leeds at home and HKR away.
TBH, didnt expect to beat HKR away and lose yesterday, but that is our "joy" of supporting Wakefield Trinity and watching Rugby League.

Think it is hard to see how good a coach is until he as had chance to rebuild a team .Mr Chester took over a good squad and we played the best rugby we have seen at Wakefield for a long time .The problems started when he had to rebuild the team he lost is way.W P as took over a much poorer squad do to players getting much older more injury prone or not good enough.W P as got them playing better ,but if a new coach came in and wanted new players can not see any coming in as a lot of the budget for next year as been spent by Mr Chester

Poaching probably has the best win ration of any coach over the past 20 years 4/6 is pretty good going and especially given that we'd won 4 from the previous 17.
I do think that we were a little over confident going into yesterdays game and didn't give Leigh enough respect.

It was their last SL game in front of their home fans and they were always going to be busting a gut to try and win and will have been targeting the fixture long before WP came in.

On the basis that we would most likely get an up and coming "young" coach, we should definitely stick with WP.
He's served a long apprenticeship as assistant at a number of clubs and he deserves a shot.

Maybe yesterday's second half will get WP to add more steel to his choices. He took over a poor side and immediately got them playing better rugby. It seems like he's said 'give it a go, don't just play safe' and it has worked well. Maybe he hasn't cracked the whip as much as needed as he has been successful with the changes he made so he has let things ride. Yesterday it was one of those second half surrenders that we haven't seen under him. Now he has the chance to explain / show the players that they can't get away with performing like this, CC may have let it roll over week on week but it can't be allowed to continue. A lot of maybes because I'm only a supporter, I'm not as fully informed about the club processes and individual players wishes like some on here claim to be.

I hope I’m wrong in suspecting the wins we had were ‘new coach syndrome’
Didn’t CC win his first 6 in charge?
I firmly believe a good coach can employ the right style of play for his players BUT they have to have the quality to allow this to happen.
You get what you pay for and as the advert says ‘you do the maths’

Much as I want Willie Poching to succeed, and I would be delighted if he does as he's one of my favourite former players, it's important that he's not appointed purely on the new coach bounce that is often seen in most sports. With not much time left he's done well but now we'll see how he gets a team up after a poor performance.