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| A lot on this forum are putting the blame on Chris Chester's coaching, or the lack of it, this is probably so, but as he said in his post match interview
we lack quality. This is down to Michael Carter who won't spend money on quality players, the coach can only do so much with what he's got, so unless we speculate we will always be at risk of relegation.
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| Completely agree we’re surviving on scrap players poor team poor players
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| Your both on dodgy ground, but I do agree.
MC did a great job in the early days but the lack of money and the constant refusal to take the occasional gamble doesn't exactly show a club with any kind of ambition.
Regarding Chester he's definitely the clubs choice, he will battle on in the knowledge that the jobs his because almost certainly any replacement would be asking about budgets.
The money things becoming very tiresome if MC would be prepared to consontrate on brining more spectators through the turnstiles he may find that a major signing could well be self financing.
I also think when he makes comments like I WISH I COULD HAVE EARN THAT SORT OF MONEY AT THAT AGE it doesn't exactly help to gel the player in question.
I hope Chester can turn things round but if he does I can not help but think we will be in the same situation next season.
The club must make take a total change of direction if it wants people to turn up and support them.
It could be that they think the new stadium may assist them in achieving better attendances but without a team thats at least in with a shout and not relegation candidates it just won't happen.
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| My season ticket is still at the shop .Think something is going to have to change before I pick it up .Some one posted worst start to a season for 50 years .Would like too know if we broke the record for least wins in 3 years Any body
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| Quote ="BIRDIEMAN"A lot on this forum are putting the blame on Chris Chester's coaching, or the lack of it, this is probably so, but as he said in his post match interview
we lack quality. This is down to Michael Carter who won't spend money on quality players, the coach can only do so much with what he's got, so unless we speculate we will always be at risk of relegation.'"
Get real, what money! What planet are you on, you and a few others on here need to learn basic mathematics. I despair at the stupidity on here at times. Sorry if that offends but this post is beyond daft.
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| Quote ="alegend"My season ticket is still at the shop .Think something is going to have to change before I pick it up [u.Some one posted worst start to a season for 50 years .[/uWould like too know if we broke the record for least wins in 3 years Any body'"
Must be someone with a good memory at their age.
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| In fairness to MC he cant spend what he hasnt got or rather the club hasnt got .as unhappy and as worried as i am about relegation i dont think its good to spend what you aint got and we have seen where that a led us before .
And this is where i can also feel for cc in a little way but on daying that and as i said before some of the clubs recuritment as been really poor.even for the money there will be better players out there.also using playing budget on an extra coach is baffeling.
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| Quote ="BIRDIEMAN"A lot on this forum are putting the blame on Chris Chester's coaching, or the lack of it, this is probably so, but as he said in his post match interview
we lack quality. This is down to Michael Carter who won't spend money on quality players, the coach can only do so much with what he's got, so unless we speculate we will always be at risk of relegation.'"
Hello Chris.
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| Quote ="vastman"Get real, what money! What planet are you on, you and a few others on here need to learn basic mathematics. I despair at the stupidity on here at times. Sorry if that offends but this post is beyond daft.'"
Hes in charge its down to him to ensure the revenue streams are there and available,thats how business works !!!!
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| Quote ="Luppylad"In fairness to MC he cant spend what he hasnt got or rather the club hasnt got .as unhappy and as worried as i am about relegation i dont think its good to spend what you aint got and we have seen where that a led us before .
And this is where i can also feel for cc in a little way but on daying that and as i said before some of the clubs recuritment as been really poor.even for the money there will be better players out there.also using playing budget on an extra coach is baffeling.'"
Again,its down to him to make sure that the money is there to spend,the buisness needs to generate the money and it his responsibility,its fairly simple.
If a top company's revenues started to dry up would they say we can only work with what we have or would they do what they are supposed to do and go out and get the money/find new ways
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| Quote ="happyjack"Must be someone with a good memory at their age.'"
Or somebody who heard Jenna Brookes say it on Sky Sports
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| Quote ="alegend"My season ticket is still at the shop .Think something is going to have to change before I pick it up .Some one posted worst start to a season for 50 years .Would like too know if we broke the record for least wins in 3 years Any body'"
I'm guessing they mean we've never lost our first 4 games of the season since 1971?
I give you Championship season 1986/87. Played 30 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 25
We lost the first 10 games and then got a draw against Barrow in round 11. Our first win of the season came in round 22 against Widnes.
I'd say that was a worse start to the season.
*I guess they are trying to include all games? including cup games? #tenuous
in 1986 we did beat Batley (who finished 13th in the 2nd division) in the 1st round of the Yorkshire cup 14-12.
Even in super league, I'd give you a couple of worse starts:
2003 lost 7/8 (beat Cas Round 4)
2006 lost 7/8 (beat Quins in Round 3)
2014 lost 9/11 (beat Catalans and London in Round 4/5)
2016 lost 6/7 (beat Hull KR in round 3)
So, it depends on your criteria, if it's just never lost the first 5 games of the season before, maybe, (I've not checked further back than 1986). But worst start to the season? I don't think so.
You also have to factor in the fixture list. Usually we play one of the bottom-half teams in the first 4 games, this year has been particularly tough. How many times have we beaten any of Leeds, St.Helens, Hull and Wigan away in a season?
As for least wins in 3 years?
Are you counting 2021 as a year even though we've only played 4 games?
2020 - won 5/19
2019 - won 11/29
2018 - won 10/23
total 26/71 = 37%
2015 - won 3/23
2014 - won 10/27
2013 - won 10/27
total 23/77 = 30%
Anyway, carry on with your agenda-driven rants, but try to check your data.
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"Hes in charge its down to him to ensure the revenue streams are there and available,thats how business works !!!!'"
Doesn't he do that rather successfully already? if you were a trinity fan you would have grasped that, I'm sure he takes advantage of every opportunity to market the club with the revenue streams available, but sometimes those revenue streams aren't available in the real world as the last 12 month have taught us, well those of us that hasn't got their heads in the clouds.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Doesn't he do that rather successfully already? if you were a trinity fan you would have grasped that, I'm sure he takes advantage of every opportunity to market the club with the revenue streams available, but sometimes those revenue streams aren't available in the real world as the last 12 month have taught us, well those of us that hasn't got their heads in the clouds.'"
Please explain how other teams manage it them,teams who have a much smaller demographic.
What they do is they go out and get the additional revenue streams.
I keep hearing on here that we are the lowest spenders in super league,why is this when we are a city with huge business around us ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Get real, what money! What planet are you on, you and a few others on here need to learn basic mathematics. I despair at the stupidity on here at times. Sorry if that offends but this post is beyond daft.'"
There a number of first team players that want contracts tearing up our recruitment this year has been rubbish stop kissing mc backside it’s about results now or it’s relegation
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| Thanks Co Co The Fullback good information appreciate the input thank you
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| I'd add to Coco's stats by saying we've never had to play all our games away before either.
Even in our best season our away win ratio isn't going to be as good as home. Same for everyone else.
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"Please explain how other teams manage it them,teams who have a much smaller demographic.
What they do is they go out and get the additional revenue streams.
I keep hearing on here that we are the lowest spenders in super league,why is this when we are a city with huge business around us ?'"
If it's that easy then why don't you go get these 'income streams' and help your club out
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| Quote ="cosmicat"There a number of first team players that want contracts tearing up our recruitment this year has been rubbish stop kissing mc backside it’s about results now or it’s relegation'"
Yes, there are several players, not worthy of contracts at the moment, maybe even review some where we have squad imbalances too.
Also, isn't it Chesters last year on his contract. I think it is, but I could be wrong. Surely it won't be renewed
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Yes, there are several players, not worthy of contracts at the moment, maybe even review some where we have squad imbalances too.
Also, isn't it Chesters last year on his contract. I think it is, but I could be wrong. Surely it won't be renewed'"
It is his last year yes but i believe there in discussions regarding a new deal
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| Quote ="Luppylad"It is his last year yes but i believe there in discussions regarding a new deal'"
I seriously hope you're kidding me
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"I seriously hope you're kidding me'"
No read somwhere at start of season discussions had started
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| Rumour has it that the new deal is with Crigglestone All blacks.
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"Hes in charge its down to him to ensure the revenue streams are there and available,thats how business works !!!!'"
Pure compost gold.
So as we sell RL from the back of a van (BV) Wigan sell it from Oxford street (JJB).
I can only assume you’ve been to neither ground or you wouldn’t post such guff would you steff.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"There a number of first team players that want contracts tearing up our recruitment this year has been rubbish stop kissing mc backside it’s about results now or it’s relegation'"
I’m not kissing ass I’m using my brain not my fault yours is peanut sized.
The quality of our recruitment is open to debate, the fact that we can only shop in the bargain basement is not.
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