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| Still no jowwit , k wood or battye
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| Hampshire in at FB, and possibly Kay on the wing? otherwise the same as Leeds game.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Hampshire in at FB, and possibly Kay on the wing? otherwise the same as Leeds game.'"
Well theres no a walker so would appear ryan at FB wonder if b walker could do a job at 9
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| Just seen same ref as last week
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| Actually thought Walker had his best game for us, so I assume it's for rest purposes. Hampshire though is a welcome return.
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| Squad should be good enough to win. Looking at their announced squad Wigan have some pretty obvious weaknesses in their back division we should be both good enough and ruthless enough to exploit. Use our pace out wide and kick to their inexperienced wing. Forwards will have to stand up though.
Much as it pains me to say, thought Hardaker was excellent last week against Leigh.
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| So no Pitts in the 17 ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Actually thought Walker had his best game for us, so I assume it's for rest purposes. Hampshire though is a welcome return.'"
If that was his best I hope I never get to see his worst!
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| Quote ="supercat"Just seen same ref as last week'"
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| Quote ="alegend"So no Pitts in the 17 ?'"
He's in the 21 man squad so, every chance of him playing ?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"FFS'"
Maybe he'll have seen just how many decisions he gave against us and his conscience will kick in (hopefully)
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| Quote ="Luppylad"FFS'"
I’m not into ref bashing as I thought overall he was ok but if we end up getting a hiding on set restarts again then it has to be questioned what are we doing wrong as a team and what are other teams doing right.
I thought ref was fine until mid second half when Leeds got 3/4 consecutive set restarts on 3 sets to really get them downfield. He’d all but not bothered for the 50 minutes prior.
We need to find a way to ensure there’s no repeat and be disciplined.
I’m utterly shocked Luiliea is playing though. Injured a player in a truly reckless challenge and it got swept under the carpet reading the disciplinary. Player fell over Leigh player. Watching the replays I’d say his shoulder made reckless contact with the lower leg. Accidental or not the player has a responsibility.
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| This is one we really do have to win now against a very weak looking Wigan squad,I think we will win this one quite comfortably.
I'm going Waky by 16
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"This is one we really do have to win now against a very weak looking Wigan squad,I think we will win this one quite comfortably.
I'm going Waky by 16'"
Getting it in early are we now, so the Wigan squad is weak is it, I don't think so.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe he'll have seen just how many decisions he gave against us and his conscience will kick in (hopefully)
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Was he not not the ref who allowed marshall to tap the ball where he wanted to at belle vue 18 months ago which led to winning try. If he was he owes us a few
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I’m not into ref bashing as I thought overall he was ok but if we end up getting a hiding on set restarts again then it has to be questioned what are we doing wrong as a team and what are other teams doing right.
I thought ref was fine until mid second half when Leeds got 3/4 consecutive set restarts on 3 sets to really get them downfield. He’d all but not bothered for the 50 minutes prior.
We need to find a way to ensure there’s no repeat and be disciplined.
I’m utterly shocked Luiliea is playing though. Injured a player in a truly reckless challenge and it got swept under the carpet reading the disciplinary. Player fell over Leigh player. Watching the replays I’d say his shoulder made reckless contact with the lower leg. Accidental or not the player has a responsibility.'"
I can live with him giving against us when warrintedand they may of been can live with the forward pass and the ball steals too esp with it been a new rule my issue is with him not been consistent and pulling leeds and not giving us restarts as they wearnt perfect and messed about in the ruck to ie the topou and prior incident
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| Quote ="vastman"icon_lol.gif
Getting it in early are we now, so the Wigan squad is weak is it, I don't think so.'"
Oh my word
Have you seen the Wigan squad !!!
I don't think anyone will argue that this is a very weak Wigan squad to what they will put out later in the season
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| Quote ="Luppylad"I can live with him giving against us when warrintedand they may of been can live with the forward pass and the ball steals too esp with it been a new rule my issue is with him not been consistent and pulling leeds and not giving us restarts as they wearnt perfect and messed about in the ruck to ie the topou and prior incident'"
Really don't like this ball steal rule,how is the ball handler to know when other players have dropped off whilst taking the ball in or trying to break out of a tackle.
As far as I'm concerned as soon as 2 players enter the tackle that should be that and no ball steal should be allowed.
We seem to be changing the rules again for the sake of it
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"Really don't like this ball steal rule,how is the ball handler to know when other players have dropped off whilst taking the ball in or trying to break out of a tackle.
As far as I'm concerned as soon as 2 players enter the tackle that should be that and no ball steal should be allowed.
We seem to be changing the rules again for the sake of it'"
Chris Chester mentioned the ball stealing on last nights full 80 minutes. He wanted to know at what point is the tackle completed, considering Tom was on the floor with his free hand touching the ground,
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| You can get 14 start on Wakefield at even money some places
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"Really don't like this ball steal rule,how is the ball handler to know when other players have dropped off whilst taking the ball in or trying to break out of a tackle.
As far as I'm concerned as soon as 2 players enter the tackle that should be that and no ball steal should be allowed.
We seem to be changing the rules again for the sake of it'"
While no fan of the rule it only seems our coaching staff has an issue adapting to it.
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| Quote ="deeHell"While no fan of the rule it only seems our coaching staff has an issue adapting to it.'"
It would be interesting to know at what point are tacklers no longer involved AND when the tackle is deemed complete.
Having said that, Leeds look to have practiced dropping off the tackle to allow a steal and we certainly had not. They made more steals than any other side last week.
However, when there are still other players touching the player, surely they are still involved in the tackle.
Maybe the key is to hold one of the additional tacklers in, so that there are always 2.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Chris Chester mentioned the ball stealing on last nights full 80 minutes. He wanted to know at what point is the tackle completed, considering Tom was on the floor with his free hand touching the ground,'"
Only the ref and Barry McD couldn't see that but to be fair on Barry he is one-eyed in every sense of the word. It was a baffling decision.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Chris Chester mentioned the ball stealing on last nights full 80 minutes. He wanted to know at what point is the tackle completed, considering Tom was on the floor with his free hand touching the ground,'"
Only the ref and Barry McD couldn't see that but to be fair on Barry he is one-eyed in every sense of the word. It was a baffling decision.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It would be interesting to know at what point are tacklers no longer involved AND when the tackle is deemed complete.
Having said that, Leeds look to have practiced dropping off the tackle to allow a steal and we certainly had not. They made more steals than any other side last week.
However, when there are still other players touching the player, surely they are still involved in the tackle.
Maybe the key is to hold one of the additional tacklers in, so that there are always 2.'"
This is point ... it’s all down again to interpretation and you will see many different views from different officials as the season goes . I personally don’t like it and couldnt see anything wrong with the rule as it was .
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