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| Strong squad:
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| Who's going to be fullback Hampshire. Can't see Max or Walker in there
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| Quote ="Teltry"Who's going to be fullback Hampshire. Can't see Max or Walker in there'"
Senior maybe ?
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| Hope Walker doesn’t. Just not safe at all and looked shot for confidence.
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| Might as well give Bailey the full 80 and stick a recognised fullback in Hampshire at FB. Square pegs in round holes do nothing.
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| Clearly likes Bowes.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Clearly likes Bowes.'"
He certainly earned a second game and he will come into this one with far more confidence.
Mind you, all these games are tough on the younger players, especially the physicality but, there's nothing better than seeing a young kid having a dig at the opposition.
It's worth tuning in just to see how the lad goes.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"He certainly earned a second game and he will come into this one with far more confidence.
Mind you, all these games are tough on the younger players, especially the physicality but, there's nothing better than seeing a young kid having a dig at the opposition.
It's worth tuning in just to see how the lad goes.'"
Swing young players make the grade is by far my favourite part of the game. Not in a daft wide eyed way, none if this local hero crap. I like it because it shows how healthy the club is. I firmly believe that if you get it right it’s these players who make up the core of any winning team. It’s also the most cost effective if a good proportion make it.
It’s decades since Trinity had anything like a team with a substantial number of players created by the club. To me it’s the single most obvious reasons why we have failed since the 60’s since when we have been a selling club.
I’m aware many of the sixties team was expensively purchased but ther was always a flow of junior players.
I also think a that a home produced player can also include young players picked up from other clubs. The crucial bit for me is taking young talent to regular first team. Hence I include Reece Lyne as a Trinity product to name but a few.
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| Really want to win this so hopefully its strongest he can put out put.salford been takin mick over last week or so for me with refusing to play due injuries they made up and not paying bills cos they dont care about the 6 points
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| BJB could play fb as he did quite a bit in the past, especially in his London days, with either Senior or Kershaw on the wing, allowing Rocky to stay at 7 as he seems to have provided the majority of our last tackle kicking game over the last few weeks, even with Miller back.
Personally tho I'd like to see Bailey given another full 80, with at least 50% of the responsibility for kicking as the only way to test him is in game conditions.
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| Quote ="steve1g"BJB could play fb as he did quite a bit in the past, especially in his London days, with either Senior or Kershaw on the wing, allowing Rocky to stay at 7 as he seems to have provided the majority of our last tackle kicking game over the last few weeks, even with Miller back.
Personally tho I'd like to see Bailey given another full 80, with at least 50% of the responsibility for kicking as the only way to test him is in game conditions.'"
I rate BJB as a winger but not as a FB.
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| Quote ="vastman"I rate BJB as a winger but not as a FB.'" I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares'"
Always said this with TJ, it is something that you see a lot in the NRL, those real special players that play in the centre or the wing usually end up becoming great fullbacks, granted in a lot of cases some of those played a lot of junior rugby at FB but there is the likes of Valentine Holmes and Billy Slater that played majority of junior grade on the wing and started first grade on the wing before moving to FB.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares'"
Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him
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| Quote ="vastman"Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him'"
Who's gonna keep up with him to receive the pass?
Prime example was Croft being unable to back BJB up last weekend.
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| Quote ="vastman"Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him'"
He's more a centre than a fullback.
Putting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. You got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.
For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's more a centre than a fullback.
Putting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. You got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.
For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.'"
For me I see Tom as a lot more than "The fast lad"
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| Quote ="homme vaste"For me I see Tom as a lot more than "The fast lad"'"
So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.
No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.
Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.
I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's more a centre than a fullback.
[uPutting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. [/uYou got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.
For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.'"
I agree with what you are saying, but I think that quite a few Wigan fans might disagree in the case of Bevan French.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.
No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.
Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.
I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?'"
I realise all of that PT, there is a lot to the FB game, my point was when I said that I have always said that is more there was potential to try him out at FB probably slightly earlier, managing defences, linking into the attack is something that can be trained into a player, natural pace, evasion, strength is something that you cannot .Probably a little late in the day for it now but was something that I thought we should have looked at.
The finishing in the corner with no space is something that more or less every winger in the league now has in there back pocket, it has now become the norm although granted Tom is one of the best at it.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Who's gonna keep up with him to receive the pass?
Prime example was Croft being unable to back BJB up last weekend.'"
True but was thinking more into the future when the pace begins to fade.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.
No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.
Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.
I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?'"
Not strictly correct, Tom played a lot at FB as a youngster. Obviously his pace soon dictated his adult position. He could probably play FB or Centre very well given the chance. However to me he seems more than happy where he is and as they say If it ain’t broke.....
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| Quote ="vastman"Not strictly correct, Tom played a lot at FB as a youngster. Obviously his pace soon dictated his adult position. He could probably play FB or Centre very well given the chance. However to me he seems more than happy where he is and as they say If it ain’t broke.....'"
I don`t subscribe to that quote for the same reason you mention in the comment above about pace, it implies you should just wait it out until it does eventually fail before doing anything to improve it or "Fix it" - For instance a move to centre for Tom in the next couple of years would potentially prolong his career as a top level SL or even NRL player by a few years, as soon as pace starts to fade for a winger that is more or less them done at the very top of the game, in the here and now things are working well for him but who knows in a few years time we may look back and think that a big opportunity was missed.
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| Still don't get why you'd want to move him from a position in which he excels. I'm sure he wouldn't be rubbish but I can't imagine he will be a better centre or fullback than he is a winger.
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| In terms of the squad for today. I'd go with the strongest possible to win the game.
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