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| Having read all the recent postings on here + social media, the general feelings coming over seems to be that people are quite
Bored with Wakey at the moment, they are miles off being a team, they cannot play 80 mins although it pains me to say this !
No where near Salford, we are the worst team in super league.
I worry about next season's - season ticket holders coming back for more of this, I will be buying mine but numbers will be down ?
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| The difference between Salford and Wakefield, is that Salford has a coach who's had his team ripped apart but still knows how to motivate and get the best out of what he's got.
Ian Watson wasn't a world beater when he played but knows how to get the best out of what he's got.
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| Fans on hear are saying Salford coaching staff is worst than ours at beginning of seasons and team Today' shows the opposite The Coach started with five of is better players moving on to bigger clubs .just brought in players in positions he needed to strengthen.No panic buying.Think you are right we are by far the worst team in S L in everything and we will lose lots of season tickets unles there are drastic action is taken in certain positions and staff
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| He gives them knowledge and guidance, he gets the players fit and strong, he gives them a determination and willingness to succeed but above all he puts plans in place to unsettle and seek out the opposition weaknesses. They work hard for each and when they get into attacking areas they put little moves on and move the ball quickly.
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| Not rocket science really ,but seems to have eluded us for far too long
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| Well done to Ian Watson & Salford shows what can be done with the right coach.
Our attacking play is the same every week. Every team has sussed us out. Hence boring rugby, regularly nilled or a consolation effort. Then roll out the excuses.
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| It amazes me how many threads we can create just to find a way of sagging off the team or the coach.
If you looked around social media you'd also see how many fans from other clubs commented how entertaining we were against Wigan and how we were unlucky to lose.
If they can see it, why can so many Wakefield fans only see the negative.
There is lots wrong at the moment but sometimes you just have to accept we are not as good as other teams for various reasons, injuries and Covid being the biggest.
You don't have to always burn it all down because you don't like what you see. Be patient and build slowly.
Playing the fringe players will lose us games but will make us stronger in future. Same as playing Lyne and BJB together so they can get their partnership back.
It's just going to take time.
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| Bet you live in a thatched cottage with roses round the front door and a babbling brook running through your back garden with the vicar calling in for tea and a sherry, and white fluffy clouds in an azure blue sky above eh PT??
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| People don't mind the fringe players it's the poor players they have brought to the team
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| Quote ="PopTart"It amazes me how many threads we can create just to find a way of sagging off the team or the coach.
If you looked around social media you'd also see how many fans from other clubs commented how entertaining we were against Wigan and how we were unlucky to lose.
If they can see it, why can so many Wakefield fans only see the negative.
There is lots wrong at the moment but sometimes you just have to accept we are not as good as other teams for various reasons, injuries and Covid being the biggest.
You don't have to always burn it all down because you don't like what you see. Be patient and build slowly.
Playing the fringe players will lose us games but will make us stronger in future. Same as playing Lyne and BJB together so they can get their partnership back.
It's just going to take time.'"
It's going to take time!
Salford have had their team decimated like we used to and still manage to play attractive rugby with minimal losses, Hull KR bought 5 players from Bradford for £100,000, money which I thought was wasted, yet they have improved no ends.
So how long is it going to take for us to look like a well organised structured team?
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| Quote ="Redscat"Bet you live in a thatched cottage with roses round the front door and a babbling brook running through your back garden with the vicar calling in for tea and a sherry, and white fluffy clouds in an azure blue sky above eh PT??
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Yep. It's beautiful here
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| One things for sure, Salford showed what can be done when there is across the field commitment from a team.
There are no real 'stars' at Salford but every one of the Salford players worked his socks off.
If only we could show the same effort today!
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| Quote ="alegend"People don't mind the fringe players it's the poor players they have brought to the team'"
Dont think itd about the quality of the players its more to do with wasting money on players in postions where we where already covered ie walker and gigot when already have rocky and max
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"Dont think itd about the quality of the players its more to do with wasting money on players in postions where we where already covered ie walker and gigot when already have rocky and max'"
I'm not sure of the answer, but who was 'signed' first, Walker or Hampshire?
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| Hampshire. Though Walker may have been signed before Hampshire's contract was extended.
For me, the Gigot signing was the perfect example of what a lot are saying on here, and that is signing players that are available, but not necessarily what we need, which us what the problem has been with our recruitment in the past couple of years.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It amazes me how many threads we can create just to find a way of sagging off the team or the coach.
If you looked around social media you'd also see how many fans from other clubs commented how entertaining we were against Wigan and how we were unlucky to lose.
If they can see it, why can so many Wakefield fans only see the negative.
There is lots wrong at the moment but sometimes you just have to accept we are not as good as other teams for various reasons, injuries and Covid being the biggest.
You don't have to always burn it all down because you don't like what you see. Be patient and build slowly.
Playing the fringe players will lose us games but will make us stronger in future. Same as playing Lyne and BJB together so they can get their partnership back.
It's just going to take time.'"
The negative stuff is as a result of finishing last season with a whimper and currently on a losing streak of 8/9 games.
Even the most optimistic fans struggle to take too many positives from that, although, there was significant improvement last time out and we hope that Trinity can back that performance up this aft.
When your side is in a hole, it's about getting a "W" any way you can.
The comparisons with Salford are interesting though.
On paper, we look to have both a better and more settled squad but, on the field of play, they are head and shoulders above us and you do have to ask - WHY ?
Certainly, win, lose or draw, the demeanor of the 2 coaches are polar opposites and when you hear Watson talk, he always seems to have a clear plan and objectives.
Also, they (Salford) have been a selling club for the last 3/4 seasons, with their better players being sold every season.
You could say that they got lucky with Hastings and they havent been close to the same side this season.
However, the one stand out difference is that you feel that their players are hitting 8/10 every week, Trinity, taking out last week, have been hitting 5 , maybe 6/10.
As for burning it down, I still believe that we have a lot of decent players but, for whatever reason, they aren't playing as a unit. probably time for a change.
Our only chance of a win may be against KR but, there is every chance that we may not see one this season.
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| I can’t think of another example in team sports where a coach at the helm of so many soul destroying performances with a win percentage of 16.7% or 25 losses from 30 games yet keeps his job!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"One things for sure, Salford showed what can be done when there is across the field commitment from a team.
There are no real 'stars' at Salford but every one of the Salford players worked his socks off.
If only we could show the same effort today!'"
Yep, 1-17 they were excellent.
I bet Pauli is having a good laugh about Chester now.....
Playing for a coach who uses him correctly and according to the stats has lost nearly four stone in weight.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It amazes me how many threads we can create just to find a way of sagging off the team or the coach.
If you looked around social media you'd also see how many fans from other clubs commented how entertaining we were against Wigan and how we were unlucky to lose.
If they can see it, why can so many Wakefield fans only see the negative.
There is lots wrong at the moment but sometimes you just have to accept we are not as good as other teams for various reasons, injuries and Covid being the biggest.
You don't have to always burn it all down because you don't like what you see. Be patient and build slowly.
Playing the fringe players will lose us games but will make us stronger in future. Same as playing Lyne and BJB together so they can get their partnership back.
It's just going to take time.'"
I would say the way you look at things is laudable, but I would also say you are in a very small minority! You said on here weeks ago that players/the coach haven't become bad overnight, but this hasn't happened overnight?! You said on here weeks ago that Chester will turn things around........be patient and build slowly, what exactly are we building?! Rome?! If there actually was relegation would your outlook be slightly different? I think the comparisons with Salford are fair enough, who would have touched Kevin Brown with a bargepole seriously, at his age and coming off the back of a serious injury, yet he looks like he has turned the clock back, is that down to their coaching staff?? Why couldn't we have been in for Parcell instead of Josh Wood, I know which i'd rather have. The only positive for me since lockdown has been Bailey getting some game time, that's about it!
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| There’d be a certain irony if our only post lockdown win was against Cas - the only team we usually CAN’T beat.
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| Quote ="Willzay"There’d be a certain irony if our only post lockdown win was against Cas - the only team we usually CAN’T beat.'"
That would be funny......law of averages?!
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| As ever the truth lays between PT over optimism and the bitterness of others.
What people are forgetting is that through most of CC time at the club the team has been great. Better than any team that I’ve seen at BV and that includes the 2004 team. Some of the tries scored especially by TJ and BJB have been as good as you’ll ever see in SL.
So what’s gone wrong?
Well CC has probably made some errors, opinions on what they are will differ.
However Chester’s biggest mistake has been to somehow offend Lady Luck.
She hasn’t just deserted him but given him a grade A kicking, what the hell did you do Chris?
People trot out the nonsense that injuries are no excuse, get a grip and stop being foolish of course they are.
This is most notable with the much vilified new signings, how are they supposed to cement their place when they are having to be used like sticking plasters! Come on it’s obvious.
Ditto COVID-19, I’ve no idea why we are suffering more than most but we clearly are, again it’s obvious how that affects any team.
As for a bit of luck during a game, forget it, we can’t beg a break at present.
Yes we are not playing well, yes some players are not pulling their weight, yes some of CC’s selections have looked odd to me also but then I don’t know what he knows.
Whatever the problems in the team there can be no doubt to those thinking rationally that a good proportion of it is coming from sources beyond our control.
If there were an instant fix I’d take it as I hate watching id flounder like we do at present but there isn’t. We are where we are and all we can do is dig deep and hang in there, at least for this season.
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| I think we need to start climbing rather than continue digging because we are currently so deep we are losing the light at the end of the tunnel.
We can hope it is for this season only but with it starting during the last there is nothing to suggest it will be especially if we go on a budget reduction squad.
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| Well, I hope that everyone involved with Wakefield Trinity; the Board, the coaching staff and the conditioning staff et all all watched yesterday's Salford/Wire semi. Salford, a club with a very similar heritage both historically and recently to ours showed just how the underdog can achieve that Wembley dream with the right coaching staff and belief in themselves.
Just recall how we met Warrington very recently in a sem-final and simply succumbed to an embarrassing defeat. salford persevered to the very end and came up trumps.
Well done Salford!
Take a lesson from that Wakefield Trinity.
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