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| It could be me having a glitchy time, but it looks like Mr Carter has deleted his twitter account - hope I am wrong.
It's crackers that honest, upstanding people are being silenced through bullying and nonsensical grandstanding by an agenda-fuelled noisy minority.
What happened to reasoned discussion, listening and persuasion?
As I say, hope I'm just suffering tech issues...
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| Yes, it looks like he has. I always found him honest and informative, very sad.
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| Quote ="dboy"It could be me having a glitchy time, but it looks like Mr Carter has deleted his twitter account - hope I am wrong.
It's crackers that honest, upstanding people are being silenced through bullying and nonsensical grandstanding by an agenda-fuelled noisy minority.
What happened to reasoned discussion, listening and persuasion?
As I say, hope I'm just suffering tech issues...'"
A lot of people are leaving Twitter. Conservative people and I mean conservative by nature not party are joining Parler. Unfortunately in the same way twitter is infested with woke fanatics parler has a fair few red necks for want of a better description. You take your pick I suppose.
Sadly social media like twitter is on its way out imho, human beings simply can’t self regulate, especially those who consider themselves educated.
The only way to defeat social media especially open un moderated forums like twitter is to leave, I did.
It’s sad it really could be a great thing but now it’s utterly infested with vicious bullying trolls of all types. If MC has left it I’m delighted, he’s tried his best but why should he put up with some of the abuse he’s received. When your in a high place you expect some backlash but now unlike the old days it hits from all sides by faceless cowards who are often just hunting victims.
We saw it on here today with some folk suggesting MC had somehow forced player to not take the knee. It ludicrous ffs why would he, I’m sure his life would have been easier if they had prostrated themselves.
These are dark times.
Of course he may still be on it and it’s just a clich, and for his sake I do hope it’s as innocent as that.
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| Suppose he will have to have arguments on here instead, sad times indeed
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| Quote ="vastman"A lot of people are leaving Twitter. Conservative people and I mean conservative by nature not party are joining Parler. Unfortunately in the same way twitter is infested with woke fanatics parler has a fair few red necks for want of a better description. You take your pick I suppose.
Sadly social media like twitter is on its way out imho, human beings simply can’t self regulate, especially those who consider themselves educated.
The only way to defeat social media especially open un moderated forums like twitter is to leave, I did.
It’s sad it really could be a great thing but now it’s utterly infested with vicious bullying trolls of all types. If MC has left it I’m delighted, he’s tried his best but why should he put up with some of the abuse he’s received. When your in a high place you expect some backlash but now unlike the old days it hits from all sides by faceless cowards who are often just hunting victims.
We saw it on here today with some folk suggesting MC had somehow forced player to not take the knee. It ludicrous ffs why would he, I’m sure his life would have been easier if they had prostrated themselves.
These are dark times.
Of course he may still be on it and it’s just a clich, and for his sake I do hope it’s as innocent as that.'"
I’m not a twitter user, I normally just read the clubs twitter page. Can anyone explain what’s happened. Is MC receiving abuse for something he’s posted, and if so, what was it? I met MC early days just after he’d taken over the club, I’d made a donation to the club when they were skint, and he always welcomed me ever since, wherever he sees me. I know he’s an honourable man, and I will back him to the hilt. Can’t imagine what he’s said to receive abuse.
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| The last thing I saw from him was him backing up Reece Lyne on the team’s stance yesterday.
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| I think he's had enough of the nonsense.
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| Yeah its one of them on twitter, because one faction is using the image of the players not kneeling for somewhat nefarious purposes, another faction is hurling abuse at the club for encouraging them. Total online nonsense, not surprised Carter has got fed up of it. Shame though.
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| Twitter is just a spreader of hate. I left it 6 months ago because I couldn't stand the nastiness and intolerance.The problem with all forums is they need moderation . The owners of Twitter don't want moderation as it costs the money . Pop Tart does a very difficult job on here for nothing.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Twitter is just a spreader of hate. I left it 6 months ago because I couldn't stand the nastiness and intolerance.The problem with all forums is they need moderation . The owners of Twitter don't want moderation as it costs the money . Pop Tart does a very difficult job on here for nothing.'"
Yep 100% to both points
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| It's a shame if Carter is getting grief on social media. It really isn't needed but unfortunately there is no check of intelligence or ethics when you buy a computer so it's a free for all.
Time to let him know what we think of him maybe to redress the balance.
I don't know him personally though have seen him do his job close at hand. I think he's one of the most important people we've ever had at Wakefield. He generally makes great and always good decisions in the clubs best interest.
He's well regarded in the rugby world, which, with no playing history to fall back on is quite an accolade.
I think the vast majority of Wakefield fans do appreciate him but unfortunately there are always going to be some who use anonymity to take a shot.
It's important to show that they are a small and unwanted group.
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| If MC has closed his twitter a/c based on some of the idiots that feel the need to have a go, then, good on him.
Without this guy, we wouldn't have a club, which tells us everything we need to know.
Social media, while at it's best is a marvelous thing to have, at it's worst, is a hot bed of vile insults and abuse.
It seems that the only way for people to put their point accross is either, over complimentary or just way over the top in the opposite direction and too many people just cant help themselves.
It's a shame that people cant moderate themselves but, they cant. He will be better off staying away.
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| Never been enticed to ever consider any of the social media sites. I like the RL forum because its on a topic i enjoy.
I just dont get why anyone wants to share their life and personal things and even more amazed that people follow it.
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| The abuse was to be expected unfortunately, someone in the changing rooms beforehand must have said "hang on this isn't a good idea"
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| Quote ="charlie"The abuse was to be expected unfortunately, someone in the changing rooms beforehand must have said "hang on this isn't a good idea"'"
Expecting it and condoning it are two different things.
Either way it isn't right.
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| Quote ="charlie"The abuse was to be expected unfortunately, someone in the changing rooms beforehand must have said "hang on this isn't a good idea"'"
Not a good idea according to who?
I may be misreading your post but if you are saying it was the wrong thing to do then I despair. Where does this sense of moral superiority come from?
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| Quote ="charlie"The abuse was to be expected unfortunately, someone in the changing rooms beforehand must have said "hang on this isn't a good idea"'"
Also when you say "this isn't a good idea"....... What do you mean by This?
Because the thing that happened was a group of sportsmen supporting each other, in particular a player who felt his religious beliefs were under pressure and making a stand against racism.
Sounds like a great idea to me.
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| As soon as I saw it just knew a load of people would jump all over it.
Not even sure why the RFL brought it in either, wonder if they consulted with the players beforehand - probably not.
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| I’ve just been watching this weeks episode of fourty 20. If MC has seen last night, or received information of what has been said, then I’m not surprised he closed his twitter. I’ve always thought that Phil Caplin, was an ok journalist, but not after listening to his comments today, will I never purchase his magazine again. He wants to pander to the twitter fanatics, one minute he saying the game needs to debate how as a sport we deal with taking the knee, and dealing with some players views re religion etc, then he comes out with the statement along the lines of “as a sport, all players must take the knee, otherwise, they can’t play. He thinks the game’s sponsors, Sky, Might be upset, and we have to respect the BLM movement and take the knee. What the Hell, other Coaches within our game say they respect their players decision on wether to take knee or not. How can our game’s governing body instruct players on what political stance they should take. The twitter brigade have got the likes of Caplin, running scared, and allowing themselves to be bullied. God, if I ever see him at BV again, he’ll get a right telling off. I hope MC, the club stick to their guns, I don’t want to be part of a sport that runs scared of twitter bullying.
This conversation starts about 53 minutes into the program
Sorry PT, I mistakenly put it onto the other thread also
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| They wouldn’t still be doing the taking the knee at the football if crowds were allowed in that’s for sure.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"They wouldn’t still be doing the taking the knee at the football if crowds were allowed in that’s for sure.
Up the Trin'"
To move the discussion/narrative on, in that vein - how many soccer players will take the knee in the Qatar World Cup next year?
Held in a country with racial sectarianism, open misogyny, stadia built with Asian slave trade and one of the worst human rights record of any country on the planet.
Let's see which lives matter then.
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