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| There was suggestion that we got a point under the new adopted rule but I don't think SL, adopted it ?
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"There was suggestion that we got a point under the new adopted rule but I don't think SL, adopted it ?'"
Not in SL
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| I thought so !
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| When I looked up the Super League table last night at about 10pm the BBC Sport site showed the league table with Wakefield Trinity having 5 pts and Hull FC with 6 pts. When I looked again about 10 mins later we had 4 pts and Hull FC still had 6 pts. Whilst I don't agree with the Golden Point at all, perhaps 1 point for the "losers" and " 2 for the "winner" would be preferable, but surely a fairer way would be to give the points to the side scoring the most trys; after all that's the aim of the game. The absolutely best and fares secenario would, of course, be for both sides to receive a point each. Another embarrassment for the game of rugby league, I say!!!
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| FFS, a draw is a draw.
One point each.
As if the players haven't given enough in 80 minutes trying to win it or get a draw.
We can thank that useless grinning bell end Elstone for the debacle that is golden point.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"FFS, a draw is a draw.
One point each.
As if the players haven't given enough in 80 minutes trying to win it or get a draw.
We can thank that useless grinning bell end Elstone for the debacle that is golden point.
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Golden Point is a farce, the coin toss gives a huge advantage to the team receiving the ball. Not down to skill, luck.
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| I'm fairly sure that in American Football, if it is tied at the end of normal time, then in extra time, if the receiving side scores with their first possession the other team is then allowed to receive the ball to see if they too can score with their first possession. surely this would be a fairer solution ??
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"FFS, a draw is a draw.
One point each.
As if the players haven't given enough in 80 minutes trying to win it or get a draw.
We can thank that useless grinning bell end Elstone for the debacle that is golden point.
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I’m sick of hearing “ it’s only because you lost” in a cup tie then yes play till a winner, talk to someone who was involved and was gutted after, not to get anything out of it, like you say BG, both teams gave their all, I know this stupid rule is in but doesn’t make it right, only in RL and you wonder why we always play second fiddle.
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| Quote ="FIL"I'm fairly sure that in American Football, if it is tied at the end of normal time, then in extra time, if the receiving side scores with their first possession the other team is then allowed to receive the ball to see if they too can score with their first possession. surely this would be a fairer solution ??'"
Let's just get rid of it. FULL STOP!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Redscat"Let's just get rid of it. FULL STOP!!!!!!'"
Totally agree.
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| Quote ="FIL"I'm fairly sure that in American Football, if it is tied at the end of normal time, then in extra time, if the receiving side scores with their first possession the other team is then allowed to receive the ball to see if they too can score with their first possession. surely this would be a fairer solution ??'"
Exactly the GP was first copied from the NFL for TV networks in OZ. Our interpretation of the rules is an abomination. How can you have a sudden death shoot out with only one team having a shot. It's like having a penalty shoot-out in Football when the winner of toss takes the 1st penalty to win outright.
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| I felt really sorry for our lads when that Sneyd goal went over. They looked totally distraught like losers in a cup final and rightly so. Whilst the HFC lads were, understandably, leaping up and down in ecstacy. Really tough!!
I just can't think of one good reason whatsoever to support this Golden point joke of a rule.
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| I have always thought that this golden point rule was an absolute farce. What is wrong with two teams that have gone toe to toe over 80 minutes taking a point each. Hull battered us in the first half, we couldn’t cope with their intensity they were superb, second half was a different story we were much the better side and put ourselves with a chance of winning the game. A point each would have been a fair reflection of the game.
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Want to change the rules and we are left scratching our heads as to what is going on, the only rule that needs changing in my opinion is a contested scrum, if not why do we bother?
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| Quote ="deeHell"Exactly the GP was first copied from the NFL for TV networks in OZ. Our interpretation of the rules is an abomination. How can you have a sudden death shoot out with only one team having a shot. It's like having a penalty shoot-out in Football when the winner of toss takes the 1st penalty to win outright.'"
Spot on! that's my moan about it - you might as well say we'll toss a coin to see who wins the game. Injustice.
It would be a fairer to say the club that scored the most tries wins it! BUT I don'd advocate that either- a draw is a draw, end of.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Spot on! that's my moan about it - you might as well say we'll toss a coin to see who wins the game. .'"
I would guess that 99% of the crowd knew Hull would probably win because of Sneyd being present. Did they win the actual toss and choose to receive?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I would guess that 99% of the crowd knew Hull would probably win because of Sneyd being present. Did they win the actual toss and choose to receive?'"
I don't know Wollo - I assume so. Think I'd want first crack at it. I have to say it must be very rare for a team to score from the first set, but it CAN happen as we saw and that's what makes it grossly unfair. Only Hull had an opportunity to win it!
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Golden Point is a farce, the coin toss gives a huge advantage to the team receiving the ball. Not down to skill, luck.'"
especially if you let the other team make 70m on the first set
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| Quote ="BOJ042"especially if you let the other team make 70m on the first set'"
they didn't make 70 metres.
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| bit like the goldern snitch innit? like, if you can gerrit youv won????
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Golden Point is a farce, the coin toss gives a huge advantage to the team receiving the ball. Not down to skill, luck.'"
The biggest farce of all is that there are different rules for Golden Point depending on what division you are in. Would any other sport adopt different rules for it's top flight and it's second/third tier?? It's laughable.
At least have some consistency and say at the end of 80 minutes each team gets a point and then play for the bonus point. At least that way each team gets some reward for getting a draw.
I said it after Friday and I'll say it again, I am very close to giving up on Rugby League due to these farcical decisions/unfair repeat fixtures/Magic weekend and don't even get me started on the standard of "full-time professional" referees.
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| Just like a penalty shoot out in Football, the golden point is ok when your side wins.
Having said that, the side that wins the toss and receives from the restart has a massive advantage and taking out the argument of whether it's actually neccessary to go through the process in the regular season games, maybe a DG shouldn't be allowed or, perhaps there should need to be a 2 pint margin, although the golden point would of course take longer.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Just like a penalty shoot out in Football, the golden point is ok when your side wins.
Having said that, the side that wins the toss and receives from the restart has a massive advantage and taking out the argument of whether it's actually neccessary to go through the process in the regular season games, maybe a DG shouldn't be allowed or, perhaps [uthere should need to be a 2 pint margin[/u, although the golden point would of course take longer.'"
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| Think one point should be given for a draw.10 min's Golden point for the second one As it stands.a team could draw 3 games lose G P 3 times ,get relegated though the team just above them have lost one game more
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| Quote ="alegend"Think one point should be given for a draw.10 min's Golden point for the second one As it stands.a team could draw 3 games lose G P 3 times ,get relegated though the team just above them have lost one game more'"
You’ve always got to see the sensible side
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| According to Martyn Sadler in League Express they've changed the rules again. Now the winners get 2 points for the win and the losers get a bonus point as there has to be a winner. The only difference it makes is the appearence of the league table where the loser is credited with the bonus point.
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