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| Catalan have signed him 1 year deal
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Catalan have signed him 1 year deal'"
That's controversial by any standards, let the fireworks begin.
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| Yet more evidence that the censure you face in RL is directly proportional to how good you are, regardless of how antisocial your previous misdemeanours.
I wonder how you perceive this if you're a teammate, or a Catalans supporter, who happens to be gay; having said that, he also said that “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators” would go to hell; which probably manages to include pretty much every RL player and fan the world over - I'm certainly guilty of 4 or 5 of this things on that list for starters. I'd be very afraid of eternal damnation, if it actually existed.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Yet more evidence that the censure you face in RL is directly proportional to how good you are, regardless of how antisocial your previous misdemeanours.
I wonder how you perceive this if you're a teammate, or a Catalans supporter, who happens to be gay; having said that, he also said that “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators” would go to hell; which probably manages to include pretty much every RL player and fan the world over - I'm certainly guilty of 4 or 5 of this things on that list for starters. I'd be very afraid of eternal damnation, if it actually existed.'"
It does you fool, have you never been to Castleford!
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| A massive punch to the face for the homosexual community in the RL fan base.
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| His first game could be against us. Shame Keegan is not around to “have a word”!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Yet more evidence that the censure you face in RL is directly proportional to how good you are, regardless of how antisocial your previous misdemeanours.
I wonder how you perceive this if you're a teammate, or a Catalans supporter, who happens to be gay; having said that, he also said that “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators” would go to hell; which probably manages to include pretty much every RL player and fan the world over - I'm certainly guilty of 4 or 5 of this things on that list for starters. I'd be very afraid of eternal damnation, if it actually existed.'"
just 4 or 5 !!
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| Surprised he's happy to play in France as they lead a fairly relaxed life all round, I believe adulterey is almost a national sport for them. Some even believe the Devil has a Fronche hacksornt (courtesy of Arthur Bostrom)
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| Definitely a proud day for the sport.
It seems that RL in France has no moral compass.
Why would any employer take on someone with such public bigoted views and RL is said to be proud of how inclusive it is
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| By the way Arthur is not dead yet and nor am I suggesting that he is league with the Devil in any way, should the devil exist
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| Prophet Muhammad reportedly said gays "should be thrown from tremendous height then stoned." so I'm sure SBW won't have a problem with the signing.
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| Quote ="Willzay"A massive punch to the face for the homosexual community in the RL fan base.'"
Is it really?
This is a free society where free speech is part of the deal. You discriminate against him because of his beliefs, you're no better than he is. The good thing is you and the gay community are free to say what you want right back at him when he plays, that's how it works. The person most likely to be made to feel most uncomfortable is the guy himself, especially at some of the more intimate RL grounds where you hear every word.
When did we lose perspective on free speech and free opinion? You can't have your cake and eat it (Megan and Harry style), you have to take the rough with the smooth, its life.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Definitely a proud day for the sport.
It seems that RL in France has no moral compass.
Why would any employer take on someone with such public bigoted views and RL is said to be proud of how inclusive it is
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Because if they didn't they would be breaking the law, it's not rocket science. What you are advocating is pure discrimination against a man because of his views and that is utterly wrong in fact Falou would be proud of you.
France is a fully secular nation, one of it's few good points, so your attitude won't break any ice over here.
And yes I find IF's views both wrong and utterly laughable but if that's what he thinks then that is his god-given (in his case) right.
Also, where do you buy these moral compasses, is there a Which comparison site as there seems to be a lot of different brands to choose from?
You're a decent poster I know you are but this one is a bit daft, though I respect your right to say it...see
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| Great signing for Catalan
The guy is a class ball player
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| Free speech is a gift that should be used wisely and not in uttering the bile spewed by Mr Falou, tolerance is a wonderful thing what offends some doesn't others. History is littered with people who were allowed to speak freely and then went on to carry out unspeakable horrors. it starts somewhere and others are right to challenge his views.
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| Love Wigan's response to this. Perhaps the best way to deal with this kind of attitude.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Love Wigan's response to this. Perhaps the best way to deal with this kind of attitude.'"
Is it, not cynical then from a club that employs a renowned homophobe who actually took it a step further. Suprised you fell for that one.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Love Wigan's response to this. Perhaps the best way to deal with this kind of attitude.'"
Hope we do the same for the Catalan home game, could even double the attendance
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Is it, not cynical then from a club that employs a renowned homophobe who actually took it a step further. Suprised you fell for that one.'"
More so rather than trying to shut him up, celebrate the fact people in this country can generally live their law abiding lives how they wish.
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| Quote ="RickK"Free speech is a gift that should be used wisely and not in uttering the bile spewed by Mr Falou, tolerance is a wonderful thing what offends some doesn't others. History is littered with people who were allowed to speak freely and then went on to carry out unspeakable horrors. it starts somewhere and others are right to challenge his views.'"
Wrong in my opinion. It takes all voices to make free speech work not just the ones you like. Some of the most righteous sounding people on earth are utterly vile under the skin and that's how they get away with it, they hide in plain sight.
The people who say things you don't like aren't the problem, it's those who don't but think and act who are the problem.
If you don't allow bigots a platform how will you ever know what they really are, you won't until it's too late. Look through history, its happened loads of times. Best to know your enemies IMHO.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"More so rather than trying to shut him up, celebrate the fact people in this country can generally live their law abiding lives how they wish.'"
Sorry, don't get your point.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Because if they didn't they would be breaking the law, it's not rocket science. What you are advocating is pure discrimination against a man because of his views and that is utterly wrong in fact Falou would be proud of you.
France is a fully secular nation, one of it's few good points, so your attitude won't break any ice over here.
And yes I find IF's views both wrong and utterly laughable but if that's what he thinks then that is his god-given (in his case) right.
Also, where do you buy these moral compasses, is there a Which comparison site as there seems to be a lot of different brands to choose from?
You're a decent poster I know you are but this one is a bit daft, though I respect your right to say it...see
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He is, like the rest of us, entitled to believe whatever he wants and nobody can prevent you thinking whatever you want.
However, when someone is advocating the stuff that he put on a public forum (twitter) then, for me, he's gone a long way over the line.
Saying that the bushfires in Aus were sent as punishment for gay sex and marriage, wont endear him to too many over there either.
As I said in a different post, some Cas fans were ejected and banned for saying far less offensive stuff and it's quite bizarre that any employer would want someone with such open bigoted views on their payroll.
The issue is not his views as such, it's that he has gone public with those views.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Prophet Muhammad reportedly said gays "should be thrown from tremendous height then stoned." so I'm sure SBW won't have a problem with the signing.'"
Wow shoehorning a dig about SBW over an issue or story that has nothing to do with him!!
Regardless of his personal beliefs in relation to homosexuality he hasn’t aired them pubicly.
In relation to Falou another player to light up SL hopefully.
People don’t agree with his views and that’s fair enough and I believe Super League have issued the perfect statement in relation to this signing publicly condeming it.
In truth though I just want to see him on the field and away from his soap box.
As long as he keeps his head down and just gets on with his rugby I think he will be a great addition to the comp.
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| Quote ="jonh"Wow shoehorning a dig about SBW over an issue or story that has nothing to do with him!!
Regardless of his personal beliefs in relation to homosexuality he hasn’t aired them pubicly.
In relation to Falou another player to light up SL hopefully.
People don’t agree with his views and that’s fair enough and I believe Super League have issued the perfect statement in relation to this signing publicly condeming it.
In truth though I just want to see him on the field and away from his soap box.
As long as he keeps his head down and just gets on with his rugby I think he will be a great addition to the comp.'"
There must be a quote from Falou's favourite book about "turning a blind eye" but, maybe we shouldn't go there.
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| I’m torn on this one. Folau’s views are despicable and (as they’re based on the supposed teachings of an imaginary being in the sky - in my opinion) utterly stupid.
But I’m uneasy with banning people and things we disagree with. At least we know what he thinks and, if we want to, we can counter his views at matches in whatever way we think appropriate. If he gets a load of stick at every away match (and home matches too hopefully) it could actually prove what we all think about RL being inclusive and welcoming.
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