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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.'"
We have requested that the following be permitted to speak :
Jonathan Stone - Chair, Wakefield & District Community Trust
Phil Townsend - SWAG
Mary Creagh MP
This is a Planning Meeting and the Chair will not permit an open debate on the whole Newmarket fiasco so we will focus our objection to the current planning application and why.
I believe it's a public meeting so anyone who wishes to attend is at liberty to do so.
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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.'"
We have requested that the following be permitted to speak :
Jonathan Stone - Chair, Wakefield & District Community Trust
Phil Townsend - SWAG
Mary Creagh MP
This is a Planning Meeting and the Chair will not permit an open debate on the whole Newmarket fiasco so we will focus our objection to the current planning application and why.
I believe it's a public meeting so anyone who wishes to attend is at liberty to do so.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Could Newmarket still be an possibility or not ?'"
An allotment at Newmarket might be a possibility, once the Council have finished waving through all Yorkcourts planning apps
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| They likely never started.
Clearly this 'good news' and the Kitwave application are closly linked. This concerns me greatly. I hope I'm wrong but i can well see a token gesture from YC/Box to not kick up the stink this deserves whilst the apllication is decided. i hope Ian, Phil and Jonathan get the opportunity to get the full message heard at the chamber and scare Box's nodding dogs with the words Judicial Review. it might just mean this doesnt get railroaded through without fair recompense.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash" Clearly this 'good news' and the Kitwave application are closly linked. This concerns me greatly. I hope I'm wrong.'"
Totally agree!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"They likely never started.
Clearly this 'good news' and the Kitwave application are closly linked. This concerns me greatly. I hope I'm wrong but i can well see a token gesture from YC/Box to not kick up the stink this deserves whilst the apllication is decided. i hope Ian, Phil and Jonathan get the opportunity to get the full message heard at the chamber and scare Box's nodding dogs with the words Judicial Review. it might just mean this doesnt get railroaded through without fair recompense.'"
With the timing of the “good news announcement” and kitwave is obviously linked. It seems we are going to get something but not what we were promised. Trouble is it looks like we will never get what were promised so we have to get the best we can now. Somebody mentioned YC playing the long wait game, sadly we can’t play that game we’ve been playing it for 10 years with YC. At this stage I will be happy is this “good news “ gets us a fit for purpose stadium and all the rumours indicate Belle Vue.
Up the Trin
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| Anybody on here going to the council meeting on Thursday?
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Anybody on here going to the council meeting on Thursday?'"
It’s my intention to attend this meeting. Is it possible for someone well versed on these matters, to say if a decision on this application will likely to be announced on the day, or deferred to a later date.
Thank you
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| I'd lay even money that if the Kitwave application gets nodded through then we'll hear some good news more or less straight after. If it doesn't get the nod I suspect any 'good news' will no longer be forthcoming and we'll have another fudge.
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| I've locked the other thread as the opening post was actually only a ? which I can hardly moderate to keep on track.
Please leave this as a sensible update or comments on the stadium and related topics. I'll clean up if there are troll posts and arguing on it. This one people actually need to be able to see if there is real news.
I've pulled out the latest comments about the stadium. Apologies if you have one left behind. I can add it if you feel it needs to be in this one.
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Smart little ground and looks like it would fit perfectly on the BV foot print!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"
Smart little ground and looks like it would fit perfectly on the BV foot print!'"
Belle Vue’s better than that.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Belle Vue’s better than that.
Up the Trin'"
Sadly it ain't. I don't know if they are selling it piecemeal but the main stand would fit nicely where the flats currently stand.
If we are going to end up developing BV ourselves this is how you do it as Fev have. If you got it cheap and used fan labour as Snowie suggests you could get a new end for possibly less than a million!
Maybe the west terrace could be replaced by that long terrace, looks about the same size.
The rest of its not much use but imho you could make the above work.
I know it's not perfect and the normal know it alls will be on but I personally think its a good spot by Klav - we really are beggars at the moment like it or not.
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| I'd take the terrace behind the goals and the touchline.
Much better than anything BV has to offer.
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| A tidy little ground that puts both of ours to shame (I’m fed up)!
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| The stands seem to comfortably fit the terracing, but the capacity is only half of that we are looking for - 6000 as opposed to 12000. If we were able to obtain some, or all, of the stands we would still have a lot of uncovered area.
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| Desperation defies logic.
The stands are too small.
We need capacity to be at least 10,000 and those side stands just are not big enough.
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Desperation defies logic.
The stands are too small.
We need capacity to be at least 10,000 and those side stands just are not big enough.'"
It's hardly likely to happen, however the terracing is probably most of that 6k alone leaving 5k or so to find for other two sides of the ground. Belle Vue itself won't fit much more than this on the current footprint anyway.
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| Replace the East Stand with the unfinished stand (naturally completed once insitu at BV) at Millmoor along with terracing to replace the north and western terrace and hey presto, a decent stadium on the cheap.
Anyhow, all very unlikely, however tomorrow will hopefully bring more news into the open we all can assess what this good news is.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Replace the East Stand with the unfinished stand (naturally completed once insitu at BV) at Millmoor along with terracing to replace the north and western terrace and hey presto, a decent stadium on the cheap.
Anyhow, all very unlikely, however tomorrow will hopefully bring more news into the open we all can assess what this good news is.'"
Not holding my breath.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Not holding my breath.'"
Yeah it will progsbly get deferred.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Yeah it will progsbly get deferred.'"
Well the trust and club are quiet so hopefully they are happy with the good news.
Up the Trin
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