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Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Snowie implied before that it occurred when he attempted to sidestep O'Loughlin. That is my belief.'" view it again and repeat it time and time again to try and get an understanding whether he was trying too to avoid the swinging arm and it looks even worse now, as you can see that the strike happens he falls on his knee, having the medical information knowing he was knocked out or at least for the sudden moment he wouldn't of been in control of his body and his full weight has been impacted on his knee joint, I've even thought that the arm was a sudden reaction to the direction that Chris had taken to avoid the tackle.
to me its clear evidence that the way he accelerated into the tackle that he wasn't going to miss that tackle, Chris had taken a line and from the evidence hadn't deviated from that and in fact only taken three step from receiving the ball,
I trying to find your innocence to the tackle giving him the benefit of the doubt ie arm riding up from lower down in the tackle but again there is none.
had that been Tomkins you'd been up in arms
if I was you I'd stop harping on about it now as its clearly a wrong decision by the panel and could in
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| Snowie, I don't know how you can even refer to it as a 'tackle'.
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| Quote ="PHe"Snowie, I don't know how you can even refer to it as a 'tackle'.'" attempted tackle if that helps, its not been the first type of swinging arm and not be the last, we've all been guilty at some time doing something in reaction to stop a player
there has been a few underhand tactics applied of late and the only player to know his intention would be lockers
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| By all means talk about the tackle and the incident but let's not discuss Suzy. It will only start it up again.
I've edited the title to help you
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| Last thread was a joke. It was a high tackle yes, He should've got a bigger ban, No Wigan fan is going to try and overturn the ban length....
I'm sure reversed neither would you. Wish Annakin a speedy recovery. Very unfortunate the injury, If it was an injury to the Head IMO it would have increased the ban. However it's not....
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| Annakin now likely to be out 6 months.
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| Quote ="snowie"seen as its locked
view it again and repeat it time and time again to try and get an understanding whether he was trying too to avoid the swinging arm and it looks even worse now, as you can see that the strike happens he falls on his knee, having the medical information knowing he was knocked out or at least for the sudden moment he wouldn't of been in control of his body and his full weight has been impacted on his knee joint, I've even thought that the arm was a sudden reaction to the direction that Chris had taken to avoid the tackle.
to me its clear evidence that the way he accelerated into the tackle that he wasn't going to miss that tackle, Chris had taken a line and from the evidence hadn't deviated from that and in fact only taken three step from receiving the ball,
I trying to find your innocence to the tackle giving him the benefit of the doubt ie arm riding up from lower down in the tackle but again there is none.
had that been Tomkins you'd been up in arms
if I was you I'd stop harping on about it now as its clearly a wrong decision by the panel and could in'"
Viewing the incident again has done nothing but reaffirm my belief that Annakin's leg buckled as he attempted to sidestep Lockers. This leads to him dropping several inches which results in Lockers hitting the shoulder/neck region rather than wrapping around the chest as was his intention.
I'm honoured to have a thread named after me, but am glad that it's been renamed so we can focus on debate, rather than the name calling the other thread descended into.
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| You're wrong luv and I'm sure you know that and this is just trolling, but we're all entitled to an opinion no matter how wrong yours is, you're entitled to it, so there you go, you can toddle off our forum now and go back to the "Big Boys" forum
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Viewing the incident again has done nothing but reaffirm my belief that Annakin's leg buckled as he attempted to sidestep Lockers. This leads to him dropping several inches which results in Lockers hitting the shoulder/neck region rather than wrapping around the chest as was his intention.
I'm honoured to have a thread named after me, but am glad that it's been renamed so we can focus on debate, rather than the name calling the other thread descended into.'"
Nope, you're wrong. I've watched it to look specifically for that. He was fully in control of all of his movement when he was clattered. No leg-buckling. His legs buckled when he was knocked out with a cheap, lazy shot and his torso went back but his lower limbs stayed planted. That cherry tint to your lenses must have affected your vision.
Had a shot like that from any Wakefield player put Super Sam out of action for three to six months, they wouldn't have played for quite a while, and you know it. You shouldn't have former teammates on a panel. I know Sculthorpe played at Wakefield, but he doesn't like us and didn't enjoy it. It was a biased panel and a poor outcome. Chester is right: it's a joke.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Viewing the incident again has done nothing but reaffirm my belief that Annakin's leg buckled as he attempted to sidestep Lockers. This leads to him dropping several inches which results in Lockers hitting the shoulder/neck region rather than wrapping around the chest as was his intention.
I'm honoured to have a thread named after me, but am glad that it's been renamed so we can focus on debate, rather than the name calling the other thread descended into.'"
Agreed. Seen it several times now and his leg buckled as he steps, he is actually falling into contact.
As iv said before, if this wasn't Wigan and Wigans captain, there would be minimum fuss about the whole thing.
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| Quote ="21-12"Agreed. Seen it several times now and his leg buckled as he steps, he is actually falling into contact.
As iv said before, if this wasn't Wigan and Wigans captain, there would be minimum fuss about the whole thing.'"
Are you just being deliberately difficult?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Are you just being deliberately difficult?'"
Why? Because I dont agree with you?
It was worthy of a straight red and the punishment given. He's missing a very important game at Leeds friday. I dont know what more you want? Its hardly the worst tackle of all time is it, its a lazy arm.
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| Quote ="21-12"Why? Because I dont agree with you?
It was worthy of a straight red and the punishment given. He's missing a very important game at Leeds friday. I dont know what more you want? Its hardly the worst tackle of all time is it, its a lazy arm.'"
No because what you said isn't true. Any leg buckling happens after O'Loughlin makes contact, because Annakin suffers concussion as RESULT.
Just because O'Loughlin got a red card shouldn't come into deciding a verdict, just like injuries shouldn't come into it.
FWIW, no it's not the worst tackle or the worst thing to happen on a RL pitch, but it's a cowardly attack to the head, and considering the RFL bleat on about player welfare, I would've thought they would've been firm. A three match ban would've been fine - no more, no less. But a one match ban just takes the urine.
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| People need to stop trying with this one. Never argue with an idiot because they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"People need to stop trying with this one. Never argue with an idiot because they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
Lol this
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| Quote ="trinfan71"People need to stop trying with this one. Never argue with an idiot because they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
Or like a hydra you cut off one head three more takes its place
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Nope, you're wrong. I've watched it to look specifically for that. He was fully in control of all of his movement when he was clattered. No leg-buckling. His legs buckled when he was knocked out with a cheap, lazy shot and his torso went back but his lower limbs stayed planted. That cherry tint to your lenses must have affected your vision.
Had a shot like that from any Wakefield player put Super Sam out of action for three to six months, they wouldn't have played for quite a while, and you know it. You shouldn't have former teammates on a panel. I know Sculthorpe played at Wakefield, but he doesn't like us and didn't enjoy it. It was a biased panel and a poor outcome. Chester is right: it's a joke.'"
I disagree, it is as clear as day to me that Annakin attempted a side step, did his knee and fell into contact.
Had Tomkins been injured in a similarly unlucky challenge, I'd accept it as I like to take an unbiased dispassionate viewpoint on matters like this.
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| Quote ="21-12"Agreed. Seen it several times now and his leg buckled as he steps, he is actually falling into contact.
As iv said before, if this wasn't Wigan and Wigans captain, there would be minimum fuss about the whole thing.'"
Finally someone else that can see the woods for the trees. It's clear as day buckling before contact.
Like you said, if it wasn't Wigan, Wigan and England's captain, there'd be very little said.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"You're wrong luv and I'm sure you know that and this is just trolling, but we're all entitled to an opinion no matter how wrong yours is, you're entitled to it, so there you go, you can toddle off our forum now and go back to the "Big Boys" forum
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I'm here to debate, financial, not be patronised by "luv" remarks. Contribute to the discussion or leave.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"I disagree, it is as clear as day to me that Annakin attempted a side step, did his knee and fell into contact.
Had Tomkins been injured in a similarly unlucky challenge, I'd accept it as I like to take an unbiased dispassionate viewpoint on matters like this.'"
Cough cough i would love to read your view on the Bateman v Mossop dissagreement oh it never happend!
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Cough cough i would love to read your view on the Bateman v Mossop dissagreement
oh it never happend!'"
Let's keep it on topic, Cheshire. We're here to discuss Annakin doing his knee.
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| Annakin is coming back on the angle and not sidestepping, when he gets 'cleaned out' his legs 'go'.
I think most players legs would 'go' after that.
What about the statement from Chris Chester about Andy Yates getting banned?
No consistency, one rule for one, one rule for another.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Annakin is coming back on the angle and not sidestepping, when he gets 'cleaned out' his legs 'go'.
I think most players legs would 'go' after that.
What about the statement from Chris Chester about Andy Yates getting banned?
No consistency, one rule for one, one rule for another.'"
Could you link that?
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