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| Just seen on RFL site that we have got Campbell again as the referee!
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| Myler ruled out for 6 weeks, we just need Carney to pull something in training.
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| And Dave Taylor to wake up with a bad headache.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Just seen on RFL site that we have got Campbell again as the referee!'"
The difference being that this weekend everybody will be able to see what only he saw last weekend
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| Quote ="chissitt"The difference being that this weekend everybody will be able to see what only he saw last weekend
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Think we need that tj from the Widnes game, best eyesight in rugby league, he shouldn't be sponsored by Specsavers, he doesn't need them!
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| I'm a strong believer that officials should not oversee the same team in consecutive weeks. At least we will learn not to get any injuries this week, since it appears to be a yellow card offence with this guy.
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| Hopefully as a former Warrington player, he might actually want us to do well against Catalans
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| Ref should make no difference. I thought he was ok last week.
We should be confident in our own skills to win the game. Top teams get on with it. Struggling teams blame the ref.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ref should make no difference. I thought he was ok last week.
We should be confident in our own skills to win the game. Top teams get on with it. Struggling teams blame the ref.'"
I agree, a couple of things went our way let's not forget. The pass from Miller to Ashurst for his first try was decidedly dodgy! Penny's try that was ruled out for a forward pass looked pretty flat to me, so on another day we could have lost on those decisions being different.
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"I agree, a couple of things went our way let's not forget. The pass from Miller to Ashurst for his first try was decidedly dodgy! Penny's try that was ruled out for a forward pass looked pretty flat to me, so on another day we could have lost on those decisions being different.'"
Exactly right, let's not see a problem that isn't there.
There is a chance that if he has thought about last weeks game and sin binning 3 of our players, a little harshly, he may be more lenient with us
Also, he's still better than Child win/win
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ref should make no difference. I thought he was ok last week.
We should be confident in our own skills to win the game. Top teams get on with it. Struggling teams blame the ref.'"
Apart from the 2 obvious ones he got wrong Jones-Bishop and Kirmond's sin binning I thought he had a decent game, a few perceived wrong decisions which evened themselves out overall, but your spot on there we were struggling after the Clark try and we were desperately looking for anything from the referee to halt their dominant play.
Tbh I'm glad it's him on Sunday than a couple more I could mention.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Exactly right, let's not see a problem that isn't there.
There is a chance that if he has thought about last weeks game and sin binning 3 of our players, a little harshly, he may be more lenient with us
Also, he's still better than Child win/win'"
True, overall I didn't think he was that bad, don't think he had a choice binning BJB, even though him taking a knock probably contributed to the incident. Thought he was a bit quick on the draw with Kirmond though....
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"True, overall I didn't think he was that bad, don't think he had a choice binning BJB, even though him taking a knock probably contributed to the incident. Thought he was a bit quick on the draw with Kirmond though....
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If him taking a knock contributed to it, then surely a bit of discretion by the referee could have been applied.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If him taking a knock contributed to it, then surely a bit of discretion by the referee could have been applied.'"
That would lead to all players committing professional fouls to fake injuries in order to not be sin binned!
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| Quote ="RealSteel89"That would lead to all players committing professional fouls to fake injuries in order to not be sin binned!'"
Remember when John Kear came to us for those last 6 matches?
We were at Bradford and defending our line David March got clattered and eventually came staggering back literally without a clue where he was, he bumped into the player playing the ball and the good and greatly Ganson penalised him for interfering when everybody in the ground could see he was poorly, my point is I don't think Marchy was taking advantage by faking injury.
Ganson did not use any discretion either when some things are not always clear cut, imo that is.
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| [list=[/list Quote ="chissitt"Remember when John Kear came to us for those last 6 matches?
We were at Bradford and defending our line David March got clattered and eventually came staggering back literally without a clue where he was, he bumped into the player playing the ball and the good and greatly Ganson penalised him for interfering when everybody in the ground could see he was poorly, my point is I don't think Marchy was taking advantage by faking injury.
Ganson did not use any discretion either when some things are not always clear cut, imo that is.'"
That's a perfect example of when discretion should be used I agree. But ganson was a prat so you wouldn't expect anything else. I can just see Tomkins or Hardaker rolling around in the play the ball everytime if it meant they could slow down play without been sin binned.
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| Quote ="RealSteel89"[list=[/listThat's a perfect example of when discretion should be used I agree. But ganson was a prat so you wouldn't expect anything else. I can just see Tomkins or Hardaker rolling around in the play the ball everytime if it meant they could slow down play without been sin binned.'"
It's certainly a fine line that's for sure, the good thing is we survived and fortunately he's free to play and give the coach different options on Sunday should he choose to.
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"True, overall I didn't think he was that bad, don't think he had a choice binning BJB, even though him taking a knock probably contributed to the incident. Thought he was a bit quick on the draw with Kirmond though....
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I don't think bjb even slowed down the ptb much, there were many slower ones in general play. Very harsh imo.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If him taking a knock contributed to it, then surely a bit of discretion by the referee could have been applied.'"
Discretion is difficult though.
Even if BJB was out cold, it wasn't Warrington's fault and they were delayed from playing the ball and scoring a near certain try.
I think he got it right.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Discretion is difficult though.
Even if BJB was out cold, it wasn't Warrington's fault and they were delayed from playing the ball and scoring a near certain try.
I think he got it right.'"
From the north stand with the cross bar obstructing my view to an extent, I'm not really sure what his injury was but if it was a head injury which I'm lead to believe then surely it's the responsibility of the referee to ensure the health and welfare of the injured player.
Because there's a certain amount of doubt surrounding the incident and the lapse in time in restarting because of the alleged injury surely common sense should have prevailed and a penalty sufficient.
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| Quote ="chissitt"From the north stand with the cross bar obstructing my view to an extent, I'm not really sure what his injury was but if it was a head injury which I'm lead to believe then surely it's the responsibility of the referee to ensure the health and welfare of the injured player.
Because there's a certain amount of doubt surrounding the incident and the lapse in time in restarting because of the alleged injury surely common sense should have prevailed and a penalty sufficient.'"
He didn't do otherwise though. His welfare was taken care of.
He gave BJB all the time he needed to be treated, and then gave the advantage back to Warrington as the rules say he should.
It's all a personal view and I'm clearly biased towards BJB anyway but I was at that end and have seen the video as well and he didn't look so bad to me that he couldn't have rolled away..... but even if he couldn't, it still delayed Warrington and they deserved the ref to follow the rules after the guy was treated.
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| Quote ="metallicat"I don't think bjb even slowed down the ptb much, there were many slower ones in general play. Very harsh imo.
Dk binning? No idea why.'"
Kirmond got sin-binned for tripping...watched the match on DVD last night and as the Warrington player side-steps Kirmo, he sticks an arm and a leg out and the Warrington player hits the floor....penalty definitely, sin-bin probably.
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| I've got no real issue with the binning of BJB or Kirmond; they were perhaps rather harsh, but he's a brand new ref on debut, so he'll have been working to the letter of the law.
My only gripe is the lack of equity in how England and Gidley were treated after the fact by the MRP - it turns out that despite the protestations of Wire fans, Gidley threw the first punch, so the ref actually did the right thing in walking them both - but only one player copped a further ban.
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| What a superb win. Stuck to the task and took our chances. Good composure for the drop goal from Miller.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"What a superb win. Stuck to the task and took our chances. Good composure for the drop goal from Miller.'"
Done without being at our best also without England, Moore and Lynne
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