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| Yorkshire radio RL has posted a quote from Brian Smith on twitter I have tried to copy it but can't for some reason so if anyone who knows what they are doing please feel free. I think its time Mr Carter came out and made a statement to what Mr Smith is referring to. He seems adamant that Wakefield will not be hear much longer due to the restraints been put on the team/coaching staff.
The quote has now been posted below by 1873.
Thanks 1873.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"Yorkshire radio RL has posted a quote from Brian Smith on twitter
I have tried to copy it but can't for some reason so if anyone who knows what they are doing please feel free. I think its time Mr Carter came out and made a statement to what Mr Smith is referring to. He seems adamant that Wakefield will not be hear much longer due to the restraints been put on the team/coaching staff.'"
Disappointed like all Wildcat people to see Friday night result. Be careful tho how U respond and what u read and hear. Many of those people charged with delivering the goods on game day have similar misgivings as I had.
I had different options and chose not to work in those conditions which are not conducive to the necessary professional standards that have operated every where else I have ever worked since 1984.
The long term always shows. In this case it may not be too long. Just hope the great old club is not destroyed in the meantime.
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| Quote ="1873"Disappointed like all Wildcat people to see Friday night result. Be careful tho how U respond and what u read and hear. Many of those people charged with delivering the goods on game day have similar misgivings as I had.
I had different options and chose not to work in those conditions which are not conducive to the necessary professional standards that have operated every where else I have ever worked since 1984.
The long term always shows. In this case it may not be too long. Just hope the great old club is not destroyed in the meantime.'"
Look, I don't want to be disrespectful to BS but he's rambling like an old fool with dementia!
Just go quietly Brian and accept you're failings, people will understand that the job got too hard and would have taken too long for a 62 year old.
It's getting embarrassing for him now!
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| I can't work out if he is just bitter or whether we should be worried.
There is obviously something amiss but is it something that has changed recently or are they things that has always been the case at Wakefield? I don't remember agar or Webbo complaining about things like this so for me it must be things that MC has done recently that has caused it.
That said unless both sides stop being cryptic and actually say what they are thinking then we will probably never know.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Look, I don't want to be disrespectful to BS but he's rambling like an old fool with dementia!
Just go quietly Brian and accept you're failings, people will understand that the job got too hard and would have taken too long for a 62 year old.
It's getting embarrassing for him now!'"
I would say you are being more than disrespectful, you are being insulting based on what your own assumptions. I would suggest you look at his coaching record, I doubt he would need to justify why he left unless he really does fear for the future of our club.
I suppose time will tell but all I know we are in exactly the same position we were last season and the one before that and I wouldn't consider Smith to be the common denominator in that period.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I would say you are being more than disrespectful, you are being insulting based on what your own assumptions. I would suggest you look at his coaching record, I doubt he would need to justify why he left unless he really does fear for the future of our club.
I suppose time will tell but all I know we are in exactly the same position we were last season and the one before that and I wouldn't consider Smith to be the common denominator in that period.'"
OK so I'm being somewhat insulting but he's attacking the club from a distance and under false pretences in order to protect his own ego.
He doesn't care about Wakefield Trinity!
He was here for 5 minutes ffs!
This is all about saving face for him.
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| BS is not man enough to say what was wrong and then states that there are others at the club (players/coaches) who have a similar opinion to his, thereby possibly opening up a rift not only between MC and the 'others', but also not knowing who these other opinion holders are. This 'stirring' could cause more unrest.
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| Quote ="PHe"BS is not man enough to say what was wrong and then states that there are others at the club (players/coaches) who have a similar opinion to his, thereby possibly opening up a rift not only between MC and the 'others', but also not knowing who these other opinion holders are. This 'stirring' could cause more unrest.'"
The thing is he can't name the others. BS was lucky he had other options but some of the players/coaching staff may not and rely on the wage they are getting, Looking at Friday's lack of effort by some he may be right in what he is saying.
It needs a response from MC and a true one at that.All this is doing is casting negativity about Wakefield Wildcats and we can do that no problem
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| Quote ="Disney cat"The thing is he can't name the others. BS was lucky he had other options but some of the players/coaching staff may not and rely on the wage they are getting, Looking at Friday's lack of effort by some he may be right in what he is saying.
It needs a response from MC and a true one at that.All this is doing is casting negativity about Wakefield Wildcats and we can do that no problem
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Wait a minute!
Brian Smith is responsible for the performances so far and more so for the one on Friday! It's that fact that he's trying to distance himself from at the expense of the club and now some of its coaching staff.
I think Mick Carter can be accused of a few things but not being truthful isn't one of them, he's truthful to the point of being dour!
Who's casting the negativity?
Let me help out, The answers Brian Smith!
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| Heard a few interesting things from a few people recently regarding BS. Heard he wanted to invest in the club himself and was given short shrift. I think this fits with the almost bitter edge to his comments in my opinion. Also heard MC hasn't quite been as truthful as everyone thinks about how long he has been involved at the club!!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Wait a minute!
Brian Smith is responsible for the performances so far and more so for the one on Friday! It's that fact that he's trying to distance himself from at the expense of the club and now some of its coaching staff.
I think Mick Carter can be accused of a few things but not being truthful isn't one of them, he's truthful to the point of being dour!
Who's casting the negativity?
Let me help out, The answers Brian Smith!'"
Good coach or not Smith's gone now, he gave up the right to voice his opinion as far as I'm concerned when when he walked out on us last week leaving us in the brown stuff having spent all our money on players what are perceived not good enough, and now he's decided to cause some mischief from afar under the guise of being worried for the club and it's fans, if that's the case why doesn't he just go back home and retire gracefully instead of causing no end of embarrassment for Carter the club and those fans he talks so lovingly about.
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| Getting drunk and rambling on Facebook is not a very dignified way for him to end his tenure - and that's on top of walking out at a crucial part of the season having been unable to improve the on-field performances.
I had respect for BS and was pleased when we retained him - but I've lost that respect - he's handling himself like a rank amateur.
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| Brian Smith should say what he means or shut up! Ask the right questions? What's the point? If he has real concerns and cares about the people left behind say what you mean Brian! What has he got to lose? If not stay quiet and get on with your life back in Australia!
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| Quote ="chissitt"Good coach or not Smith's gone now, he gave up the right to voice his opinion as far as I'm concerned when when he walked out on us last week leaving us in the brown stuff having spent all our money on players what are perceived not good enough, and now he's decided to cause some mischief from afar under the guise of being worried for the club and it's fans, if that's the case why doesn't he just go back home and retire gracefully instead of causing no end of embarrassment for Carter the club and those fans he talks so lovingly about.'"
You and I don't normally see eye to eye but agree with you 100%. All his comments have done nothing but cause more worry and unrest, and has the potential to cause further irrepabke damage. Why doesn't he either tell the entire truth ( or from his perspective anyway) or better yet why doesn't keep his bitter trap shut
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You and I don't normally see eye to eye but agree with you 100%. All his comments have done nothing but cause more worry and unrest, and has the potential to cause further irrepabke damage. Why doesn't he either tell the entire truth ( or from his perspective anyway) or better yet why doesn't keep his bitter trap shut
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We agree on more things than you imagine, it's just that we mean the same but interpret it differently
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| Well for me if you are going to say anything then bloody man up and say what you mean or is troubling you if not shut up lets face it One of our fans took MC up on his offer to go into the club and see for himself what is going on at the club. If anything was seriously wrong would you think for a moment MC would make that offer and do you think the said fan would keep quiet after no I thought not. Brian Smith I challenge you to be a man and do one or the other - put up or shut up
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| If he's that concerned and worried about the club why did he eff off and leave us in an even worse situation?
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| He's at it again on facebook. But you can view it on twitter.
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| Quote If someone knows Craig Poskitt, as I don't, could u please pass this on.
You are kidding yourself if you think anyone knows anything about budgets or finances including this 4th head coach at WTW under current regime.
How could you "know" that I knew?
Oh I know MC told you so! Will this outburst of unfounded rubbish help you to get that job u apparently want at WTW?
And to set you straight and lots of others perhaps the lack of expertise, desire and commitment to do something - anything - about those financial problems was and remains the issue for everyone who cares about that great club.
Perhaps you are the savior Craig. Good luck with it. Look forward to seeing what you come up with but make sure it's legal as Wakey have enough problems without that.'"
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| Quote ="RealSteel89"Heard a few interesting things from a few people recently regarding BS. Heard he wanted to invest in the club himself and was given short shrift. I think this fits with the almost bitter edge to his comments in my opinion. Also heard MC hasn't quite been as truthful as everyone thinks about how long he has been involved at the club!!'"
MC has been quite economical with the truth over a few issues at times but it's his club to run as he see's fit so thats his choice. Sadly due to a lack of people queuing at the door it seems we are stuck with him and as such this club will never move forward and will wollow in the lower reaches of superleague until the day finally comes and the luck runs out and it drops to the championship.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"MC has been quite economical with the truth over a few issues at times but it's his club to run as he see's fit so thats his choice. Sadly due to a lack of people queuing at the door it seems we are stuck with him and as such this club will never move forward and will wollow in the lower reaches of superleague until the day finally comes and the luck runs out and it drops to the championship.'"
Come on then spill the beans!!
On what issues has Mick Carter been [i"economical with the truth"[/i?
When you've named the issues, can you fill us all in with the full facts, the ones that Mick Carter Omitted!
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| All this ugly affair is doing our club no good at all, we have enough problems already but it does raise questions.
Is an accountant the best person to run a SL club?
What does BS know that made him say enough is enough? If he didn't care wouldn't he just continue to see his contract out and keep taking he money?
Why have our last three coaches quit? Agar said he was fed up with lack of resources, Webster said we needed an experienced coach to take Wakey forward, Smith walked out after a Frosty relationship!
MC has done a great job at balancing the books and keeping Wakey alive but does he have what it takes to be competive, does he have any ambition or was he simply balancing the books, paying off the debts and getting some of his money back? His he really working for free? If so why?
At the end of the day it's his club and he can do what he wishes, I just don't see any way our once great club will survive in SL with MC and it seems his last three head coaches agree we need help.
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| With regards to why our last three coaches have quit, id say two of them were pushed because they weren't very good, and the third well lacked the bottle. When you come to a club like Wakey you come to it with your wide eyes open and see it for what is - poor facilities and a lack of money. If you come to Wakey wanting financial backing (Smith got that but wasted it) and then complain that you don't have enough money, then you should've bloody well thought about what club you were joining! I have been a huge critic of Carter but come on, Agar and Webster deserved to be sacked or pushed to quitting because they were crap.
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| It's a bl**dy mess I know that - who's at fault I no longer care.
Last week I hadthe pleasure of chatting to Mopsey who like most of us on here is far more reasonable in the flesh so to speak.
He said two things that stuck in my head and remember this was before Smith left.
He said he's sick of turning up for matches without hope - how true is that.
He also said that if Trinity were a dog they would have put it down by now (or something very similar) - again you have to wonder.
For me it's not just on the field, in some ways we have had a better time of it than say Widnes or Salford for example (in recent times). But when you ad on the endless cost cutting, selling of even the most average of players, the financial scandals, the endless ground scenario and the now unforgiveable state BV is in then you realise how badly as fans we have been treated. Salford and Widnes have been crap for years however both are at last starting to flourish and the great hope their fans have is that with a bit of nous and a bit of luck they might taste some sucess.
Anybody think we ever will?
I hope not to die young but at 53 I can't see it happening in my lifetime. What I can see is me outliving the club.
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| Cas fan in peace.
Whats Craig Poskitt doing around your club?. He was (not sure if he still is) big mates with the probiz guy?
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