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| I'm sorry, but i'm not even trolling here: Ben Jones-Bishop looks absolutely pathetic. I might not watch him as much as you guys but from seeing some of his tackling attempts (or lack of) in your games this year i cant help but feel as if this guy is nowhere near good enough for Super League.
He looks feeble, uninterested and just soft and cowardice. He doesnt seem to talk to any other players so god knows how he organises the defensive line. He even looks scared of tackling players. I genuinely cant believe how bad he looks. The only thing his CV has going for it is that he once played for Leeds and he was eventually booted out of there as well for Tom Briscoe.
This might look like 'trolling' (as the kids seem to call anything with a negative opinion these days) but id love to know what your fans think of him. If there was a man you wanted as a last line of defence when someone breaks your defensive line for me Ben Jones-Bishop would be the last person in Super League id want to be relying on.
I know this sounds harsh but I suspect im not the only one who thinks this.
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| Maybe another player in the long line for us who are just stealing a wage. Didnt he only come on the understanding that he would be the full back.
He has played under several coaches who have disagreed with the fact that he thinks he is a full back.
The phrase there is no bigger player than the club, and I buy into that.
I honestly think that he would serve us better, if he was on the wing, and would look a totally different proposition altogether
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| Maybe another player in the long line for us who are just stealing a wage. Didnt he only come on the understanding that he would be the full back.
He has played under several coaches who have disagreed with the fact that he thinks he is a full back.
The phrase there is no bigger player than the club, and I buy into that.
I honestly think that he would serve us better, if he was on the wing, and would look a totally different proposition altogether
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| Maybe another player in the long line for us who are just stealing a wage. Didnt he only come on the understanding that he would be the full back.
He has played under several coaches who have disagreed with the fact that he thinks he is a full back.
The phrase there is no bigger player than the club, and I buy into that.
I honestly think that he would serve us better, if he was on the wing, and would look a totally different proposition altogether
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| Completely the wrong kind of player for a club like Wakefield. Wakey need grafters and players with heart and resilience. Smith got his recruitment horribly wrong barring Tupou and arona
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Completely the wrong kind of player for a club like Wakefield. Wakey need grafters and players with heart and resilience. Smith got his recruitment horribly wrong barring Tupou and arona'"
So Anthony England, Scott Moore and Stuart Howarth were poor signings then?.....
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| England I'll give you, Moore hasn't played yet. Howarth is average, looked good because rest are so poor but he's a 110% man.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"England I'll give you, Moore hasn't played yet. Howarth is average, looked good because rest are so poor but he's a 110% man.'"
England is our best prop, Moore is injured but saved us in the MPG and Howarth is a player you described Trinity need...a grafter.
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| Moore had a stinker in the MPG and then came up with the try that clinched it.
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| Just because he's a grafter and what's needed doesn't make him a good player or a good signing
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| Anthony Tupou is quality and would get in most superleague 17's.
England, Arona & Simon are good props and would probably get a place in some teams first choice of 4/5.
BJB decent winger in a good side, not what is needed in a struggling one. And not a first choice fullback anywhere.
Bill Tupou would be a handy winger if we played him therr, but hasn't got the skills or defensive nouse as a centre.
Johnstone is a work in progress and will probably end up fulfilling his potential elsewhere.
The rest of the squad aren't good enough for superleague, simple as. Some of them are triers yes but not up to standard.
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| Its a shame with BJB, seen him do some handy work when we're going forward and he's steady under the bomb, but his impact on defence is poor. But with the squad we've got, what do you do?
Only sensible thing I can think of is BJB --> wing Hall ---> Fullback---Arundel ----> Centre.
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| Bjb is v good at backing up tupou snd latching onto his offloads
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| I said when we signed BJB that I thought he was overrated and not really all that and unfortunately I am yet to see anything from him to prove me wrong.
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| Pretty unbelievable that in a thread criticising BJB's lack of heart and defence it is being suggested he is replaced at full back by Hall. Out of the frying pan into the fire in that respect.
I think we need to give players a run of games in a position before switching or dropping them but agree BJB needs to step up his efforts and cut out the errors.
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| What a ridiculous thread.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Completely the wrong kind of player for a club like Wakefield. Wakey need grafters and players with heart and resilience. Smith got his recruitment horribly wrong barring Tupou and arona'"
Arona is quite possibly the worst of the lot. Heart the size of the pea. Think he's been spending too much time with Scruton the skipper.
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| Grafters do not usually play at full back or wing.Remember Leeds did not offload Bishop, he was offered contact extension , but chose to leave for regular game time.Admittedly he is not at his best, but you do not score the tries I have seen him score without having above average ability.Don't know exact number, but didn't he score 20 plus for Salford last season?
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| I don't know exact number he scored for Salford but scoring that number he needs to be on the wing then. You cant deny he has pace but he is not a good full back he has a lack of communication when organising the defence besides being weak in his tackle. I would not put Hall at fullback that showed last season how much a fullback he is. I would put Tansey at fullback the time he did play fullback he organised the defence and played well Bishop for me would take Lynes spot on the wing.
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| If we've any spare cash let's try and get mathers back please
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| BJB picked up an injury, Reece Lyne was already injured, so was put on the wing. Damage limitation.
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| Quote ="try scorer"If we've any spare cash let's try and get mathers back please'"
Is Geoff Wraith still alive?
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| Quote ="try scorer"If we've any spare cash let's try and get mathers back please'"
If we got any spare cash I would much prefer Morgan Escare.
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| My twopenneth, Miller to fullback, BJB to wing, Hall a try out at Stand off.
Two contenders for fullback are out on loan, don't know if they can be recalled before the month expires. But the way Paul Anderson was talking in a recent interview it seems as though they were looking at a trial period for a longer deal. ps Tansey is a magnificent player Paul , well worth £100k imo
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| You want grafters but you also want mathers back?????
Wow.
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