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| How have they got on today with the council anybody heard owt
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| Due to find out anytime, the committee has just come back from lunch.
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| Think Box may help with this, if they get permission it could take 10 years before owt happens
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| Quote Councillors have unanimously approved FTP! / councillors approve outline application for £135m Five Towns Park'"
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| Quote ="invmatt"Councillors have unanimously approved FTP! / councillors approve outline application for £135m Five Towns Park'"
Great news and good luck to Cas going forward
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Think Box may help with this, if they get permission it could take 10 years before owt happens'"
Guess that depends whether it gets called in by the s.o.s. and they have the requisite number of businesses signed up.
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| Hasn't the site already gone through a PI as part of the planning process for NM.
I wonder if the S106 will be a little bit tighter this time around.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Hasn't the site already gone through a PI as part of the planning process for NM.
I wonder if the S106 will be a little bit tighter this time around.'"
Think it will get looked at as its a seperate development and involves greenbelt won't it?
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| What I can't understand is why they are taking such a long time to make a decision on our ground yet look to quickly get Cas's done as soon as possible. Is it perhaps that the council leader is a die hard Cas fan?
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| Quote ="Willzay"What I can't understand is why they are taking such a long time to make a decision on our ground yet look to quickly get Cas's done as soon as possible. Is it perhaps that the council leader is a die hard Cas fan?'"
I think that they keep quoting "best case" timescales and we know that things don't usually run too smoothly.
Mind you, the influence of the council leader could make a massive difference in both cases, if he was to get involved.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"=#FF0000I think that they keep quoting "best case" timescales and we know that things don't usually run too smoothly.
Mind you, the influence of the council leader could make a massive difference in both cases, if he was to get involved.'"
Correct mate, I'll allow myself a drop of single malt tonight but that's all. Any one that has followed the sorry dragged out saga of Newmarket will know theres a long long way to go. Fingers crossed here but I'm not getting too exited just yet.
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| Good luck to Cas hope it goes a bit smoother than our venture. We both deserve better stadiums...
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| it was passed and needs sos approval which will be fine because no objections from leeds like we had. also i presume that professional people will go through everything with a fine toothcomb unlike with newmarket ! you live and learn, we don't get a stadium because we had amateurs involved!
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| I'm sure it will go smoothly. Wmdc have invested a lot of time effort and other things into this development Pleased for the cas fans which include my 2 granddaughters but feel for all those who are still working so hard for a solution for the wildcats
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Correct mate, I'll allow myself a drop of single malt tonight but that's all. Any one that has followed the sorry dragged out saga of Newmarket will know theres a long long way to go. Fingers crossed here but I'm not getting too exited just yet.
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Aye, don't know too much about your project but today hearing your news took me back too our own version outside the Town Hall. Getting the full backing of WMDC, everyone being happy as Larry and thinking it shouldn't get called inio the SOS & even if it does, no way will they knock it back and they didn't. Then somehow things got very complicated.
Good look with it all anyway mate.
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| Thanks for that Shifty, people have short memories and are getting carried away. When Newmarket was approved it was for the whole development and not the community stadium, just the same as this approval is for the "Five Towns Park" and not the stadium. Lateral just like Yorkcourt are in business to make money, we just have to hope they (Lateral) have a conscience. Thanks for all your good wishes and good luck with either Newmarket or the redevelopment of Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Thanks for that Shifty, people have short memories and are getting carried away. When Newmarket was approved it was for the whole development and not the community stadium, just the same as this approval is for the "Five Towns Park" and not the stadium. Lateral just like Yorkcourt are in business to make money, we just have to hope they (Lateral) have a conscience. Thanks for all your good wishes and good luck with either Newmarket or the redevelopment of Belle Vue.'"
I'll tell you where Laterals conscience resides, somewhere within their metaphorical wallet.
They, like YorkCourt Properties will take, accept, plead and support for as long as it takes to get their planning permission, at which point the cost of building a stadium will be like salt on their tongue.
Those drawing up the contracts and legal papers had better do a bang up job because without a shadow of a doubt, Lateral will delay and delay while they do their very best to mitigate the cost of the stadium away.
Developers like Yourkcourt are like leaches, they're parasitic and will bleed their host dry to enrich themselves.
Good Luck
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I'll tell you where Laterals conscience resides, somewhere within their metaphorical wallet.
They, like YorkCourt Properties will take, accept, plead and support for as long as it takes to get their planning permission, at which point the cost of building a stadium will be like salt on their tongue.
Those drawing up the contracts and legal papers had better do a bang up job because without a shadow of a doubt, Lateral will delay and delay while they do their very best to mitigate the cost of the stadium away.
Developers like Yourkcourt are like leaches, they're parasitic and will bleed their host dry to enrich themselves.
Luck'"
Spot on.
As obnoxious as insurance companies and the like.
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| I once visited a safari park, excited to see the big cats.
As I approached the Tiger enclosure I noticed a huge male stood right next to the fence adjacent to the path. He waited there looking at me and as I reached the enclosure we both stood for a minute just 2m apart and looked at each other. He was big with superb markings he was in his prime and seemed powerfull yet somehow dignified!
As I started to walk he followed, keeping pace just beside me, matching my footsteps, when I stopped he stopped and then we moved on together. I kept my eyes on him and occasionally he glanced my way, we strode, heads up, shoulders high the two of us were like one. I mused as we walked, I thought "he senses me, the real me, he knows I'm a good person and he feels my pride, he respects my strength such that it is and he respect me".
In that moment I thought I was special and could go on to achieve anything!
On reflection, I know the Tiger was glancing at me and thinking
"As soon as this fence is out of the way I'm going to rip your throat out and eat you alive"
I've tried to convince myself that that wasn't the case, it's been hard to let go of the notion that we were kindrid in some way but deep down I know the truth.
True story by the way
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| Would we consider a ground share now?
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| Quote ="wtw"Would we consider a ground share now?'"
Not for me....I'm not in the least bit interested in Cas's new stadium, I'm interested in Newmarket, the re invention of Belle vue, are the BOI willing to sell BV? Has Super Bowl been sold? Yorkcourt's take on all this? These things are much higher on my agenda than Cas.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I'll tell you where Laterals conscience resides, somewhere within their metaphorical wallet.
They, like YorkCourt Properties will take, accept, plead and support for as long as it takes to get their planning permission, at which point the cost of building a stadium will be like salt on their tongue.
Those drawing up the contracts and legal papers had better do a bang up job because without a shadow of a doubt, Lateral will delay and delay while they do their very best to mitigate the cost of the stadium away.
Developers like Yourkcourt are like leaches, they're parasitic and will bleed their host dry to enrich themselves.
Good Luck'"
I have a sneaky feeling that this time Box & Co. at the council will ensure it is watertight and not give them any room for manoeuvre. And the difference this time is i believe it is written so the stadium has to be built and operational before any other construction takes place so if it doesn't happen then Lateral don't get paid. I reckon the only thing that will stop it happening quickly is it either getting called in, which i doubt, or possibly the lack of a supermarket signing up to the scheme which is maybe more likely.
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| Quote ="wtw"Would we consider a ground share now?'"
It wouldn't be a ground share though, we would be tennents at Cas' ground.
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| So, are Lateral gonna pay/build upfront in the hopes that a supermarket and other outlets are gonna join in later?
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| We will end up sharing with Cas. Let's share with the small suburb and let the CITY OF WAKEFIELD ROT
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