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| I post I think would be an entertaining one if not very helpful is a refs rating win or loose, now I didn't go today but could you guys that did start this post off then come the end of the season we could award a winner and a wooden spoon
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| I'd rather focus on the rugby than the ref.
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| Ref had a very good game, let the game flow think there was only one holding down penalty and no penalties for marker not square. That to me makes for a good game. Couple of times he looked to his touch judge for help and as always none came. Big call to call Gale as held up, in goal judge did not help him, think most refs would have bottled that and given a try. Would only say that when he gets to watch the game back he may think he missed a couple of head high tackles. I would give him a strong 8 out of 10.
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| Gales held up decision was clearly a try.
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| I thought the ref did ok overall , the touch judges however were pants!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I'd rather focus on the rugby than the ref.'"
sometimes it has to be said that the standard of ref has a bearing on the standard of the game so in a somewhat indirect way the two become comparable, however if you wish not to take part Don't, but why make a point of not taking part.
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| Quote ="Horbury Cat"sometimes it has to be said that the standard of ref has a bearing on the standard of the game so in a somewhat indirect way the two become comparable, however if you wish not to take part Don't, but why make a point of not taking part.'"
I guess because its the start of a new season and the most discussed topic are the officials. It takes away the discussion from the players.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I guess because its the start of a new season and the most discussed topic are the officials. It takes away the discussion from the players.'"
When you say discussing the players, in your case means slagging them off and by pointing out when on occasion referees byass does it not endorse how the players adapt an out play the oppositions 14th man. Why is it people on here only read what they want to read it was meant to be a ongoing thing rather than to just come on here and slap the ref off when we loose which I'm afraid to say is often done by many myself included.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Gales held up decision was clearly a try.'"
Was stood in good view and he Grounded the ball but shouldn't have been awarded anyway as a cas runner obstructs some one coming in to help tackle him well before he tries to ground the ball. Should have been a pen to us. Also someone might want to tell hicks that when we are tackled on the last Short of the try line that handover doesn't take place on the ten metre mark. Gave cas 10 metres which is in effect an extra tackle.
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| Fat Carneys try was 3 yards forward ,I know Owen touched it,but,the initial pass was forward.I personally thought Hicks was poor
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| The pass for Carney's try was so far forward I can only assume the linesman had something in his eye at the time. Finn released the pass on nearly the ten metre line and Carney collected it just about on the try line.
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| From what I saw of Mr Hicks gestures, a Wakefield hand touched the ball thus play on. Even though it was 10m forward.
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| It was forward out of Finns hands therefore a forward pass, everything else after that is irrelevant.
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| Mr Hicks is too easily influenced - he lets the ruck go on too long and quite often doesn't make a decision until the players around him have made their representations; and Shenton helped him on a number of occasions - must have picked up that particular habit from John Wilkin whilst he was at Saints.
Not a particularly good performance, but not so bad as the two televised matches this weekend, where the ref seemed to have a more direct impact on the outcome of the games.
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| At 22-6 down even then I said we couldn't blame the ref. I thought he had a great game. We blew so many chances in their 20 from dropped balls to obstructions. I just hope we've not used out get out of jail card this early! Things looking good though. Over time those passes will stick and we will get our timing right. But we already have the guts and resolve to not give in. You can't coach that.
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| I felt that the thing that caused us a problem with the dropped balls was Cas's rush defence.
They were often off side, but then so were we. The difference was they were very good at passing close to the line where we were just not quite there.
The pass and drop offs we were trying were very Warrington-esque and if we can make it work (meaning fast hands and no drop) it will be great for us, but in this game we couldn't do it.
What worked at the end of the game was a good go forward and very accurate passing from Smith.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Fat Carneys try was 3 yards forward ,I know Owen touched it,but,the initial pass was forward.I personally thought Hicks was poor
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It was Collis not Owen that got a hand to it, but he was only about 2 metres out from our line and knocked it up in the air over the line for Carney to catch, so as others have said, the initial pass from Finn was a mile forward
I too thought Hicks had a poor game, as Cas seemed to get all the 50/50 calls, but speaking with TRB on the way out afterwards, he thought Hicks had a good game
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| Quote ="FIL"It was Collis not Owen that got a hand to it, but he was only about 2 metres out from our line and knocked it up in the air over the line for Carney to catch, so as others have said, the initial pass from Finn was a mile forward
I too thought Hicks had a poor game, as Cas seemed to get all the 50/50 calls, but speaking with TRB on the way out afterwards, he thought Hicks had a good game
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It was 100% definitely Owen who got a touch on it but it was no more than a glancing fingertips touch which then hit Carneys arm, went forward but he caught it on the full to dab it down for the try.
As I said earlier,it was forward out of Finns hands so the touch from Owen is irrelevant
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| Was it Collis? It was right in front of me and I'd say it was Owen. Maybe I need my eyes checking.
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| Don't know if it was forward or not , but it was deffo Owen's fingertips' that touched the ball and put Carney off slightly.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Fat Carneys try was 3 yards forward ,I know Owen touched it,but,the initial pass was forward.I personally thought Hicks was poor
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I thought he was poor too how many high shots did they get away bet it was close if not in double figures, in the first half when cas where taking the ball away from there own line he gave a pen to cas for high shot when Millington asked for it and not until. I was close to where it looked like ali was going to score and the ball was in my view ripped but knock on was given but gale try was a try the ball was grounded but to me there was obstruction as in him running in his own player
but we won and that's what we need to be more bothered and filling belle vue on sunday
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| Was surprised at the time but tv shows that Miller was clearly pulled back when Washbrook kicked ahead. Actually he was properly tackled.
Then we got penalised I assume for off side.
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| Ref seemed to let a lot go both ways. For me always preferable to 99 penalties each per half. Then again Daryl Powell did have a snide 'a few forward passes not noticed' comment in one of the interviews which seems a little childish and sore loser to me. First game back the lads were blowing some; discipline bound to slip both ways but as long as its fair both ways and safe for the players
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| Quote ="PopTart"Was it Collis? It was right in front of me and I'd say it was Owen. Maybe I need my eyes checking.'"
Apologies people, I could have sworn it was Collis I saw touch the ball, but having seen it again on Sky last night, it was definitely Owen
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| Quote ="PopTart"Was surprised at the time but tv shows that Miller was clearly pulled back when Washbrook kicked ahead. Actually he was properly tackled.
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It was for a high shot,believe it or not
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